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🚨 BREAKING: US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent declares OpenAI management personally responsible for HuggingFace hack
> "The Hugging Face incident, that is the responsibility of the OpenAI management, not a bunch of agents."
> "It is humans who are responsible, not the AI."
> "What we shouldn’t do on safety is to give these labs a liability exemption, which is what they are asking for."
> "The best way to guarantee safety is that the creators are liable for what they build and generate."
It’s OVER
Andrew Smith retweeted
OpenAI is playing a very short term game, which is a sign of desperation and/or IPO greed.
Instead of welcoming Alpöge and Buckmaster into a collaboration they bullied and set the stage for a war.
Instead of playing straight, they obfuscated. Basically: we didn’t use the data *directly*.
They want the attribution for the Millennial Prize but (a) the cloud will never go away and (b) few people will trust them going forward.
Andrew Smith retweeted
not mincing words, @jeremyakahn:
Andrew Smith retweeted
This is insane.
OpenAI could be keeping an eye on scientists’ prompts, tracking when someone seems close to a major breakthrough, and then putting its own team on the same problem using ideas from those conversations.
This would let OpenAI get to the result first, steal credit, and use the achievement to improve its public image and stay ahead of Anthropic.
Andrew Smith retweeted
this is insane.
Levent and Tristan make major independent progress towards Navier–Stokes, with help from Claude and Codex.
word reaches OpenAI.
days later, OpenAI claims internal NS results, coincidentally using the same novel methods as Levent and Tristan.
Tristan asks if OpenAI trained on their private Codex sessions. he never gets an answer.
then OpenAI pressures Tristan to publish without Levent because Levent works at Anthropic.
when Tristan refuses, he says OpenAI threatens his career.
Andrew Smith retweeted
I wish this was more inspiring, but it is actually lame
It seems like OpenAI got wind that a professor was close to solving a problem after dedicating a decade of his life to it, so they threw a huge amount of compute together with whatever hints they had at the problem and cracked it
It’s also not clear whether the professor had data sharing turned off, so it’s possible that his own work may have gone into training data
OpenAI should have left this alone, it would’ve been way more inspiring if someone had used their tools to crack a big problem than that they went out of their way to scoop him
I honestly kind of hold this in contempt and find it a bit depressing
Axios and Wired just reported that OpenAI claims to have solved that an internal AI model produced a proof resolving the Navier–Stokes Millennium Prize problem
OpenAI started to search for a solution to this problem on Sep 1 "after OpenAI researchers heard rumors that two Millennium Prize problems had been solved"
Axios reported that "10,000 concurrent agents worked on the Navier–Stokes effort, reaching the result in about 88 hours."
I don’t buy that OpenAI used 10k agents and did any math, whatsoever. They straight up stole the result from someone using their app. Total betrayal of their users.
Andrew Smith retweeted
Open problem for 90 years and then release a solution on the same day as the scientists who were working on it for years. Not suss at all.
We congratulate Levent Alpöge and Tristan Buckmaster on their remarkable mathematical work.
We (the researchers and the agents) did not see any of their work through any means until they released it publicly — in particular, no specific user data was accessed in order to solve this problem.
While unlikely, we cannot rule out that de-identified data derived from their usage of our products helped improve our models.
However, our proofs differ significantly and even the precise results proved are different in the Euler case (forced vs. unforced).
Andrew Smith retweeted
tristan buckmaster just published a statement that is, if accurate, one of the ugliest things i’ve read out of a frontier lab.
not because of the math. because of what happened after openai found out two people were about to beat them to the punch.
buckmaster and levent alpöge spent a year pushing the córdoba / martínez-zoroa program to smooth forcing. august 15 they got blowup for boussinesq and 3d euler. lean-verified august 22.
they were paying openai out of pocket and dumping every draft into private codex sessions.
the program is obscure. almost nobody else was on it. this was not “paste the clay problem into a chatbot.”
then this:
> thursday sept 3, buckmaster emails openai privately. rumors are flying. he is trying to stop a mess, not start one.
> they reply the same day: give us details so we can “avoid competing.” also, want free compute?
> sunday they suddenly need a call “at any point today.” sebastien bubeck gets on. levent is not invited.
> openai says an internal model has a ~100-page proof of forced navier–stokes blowup. fefferman options c and d. the exact route buckmaster and alpöge had quietly chosen.
> they show him a prompt and claim the model was “simply given the problem statement.” levent is told “very little human input.”
> that falls apart on the same call. a whole team had been on it. they started on the unforced problem, warmed the model up on easier equations including euler, and even the prompt they showed him was written by prompting codex.
> he asks when the first prompt went out. they stall. then agree: the past few days. after information about his work reached openai.
> he asks whether the model was trained on, or had access to, the private codex sessions where they put every draft of this project.
> answer: the model does not look up user data.
> he asks again. about training.
> no answer.
then it stops being a science story and becomes an hr story.
> offer 1: you post euler. we post navier–stokes the next day.
> offer 2: after you post euler, you alone write the navier–stokes paper, credit our model, and we cut levent.
> bubeck says twice he wants levent removed from authorship because he works at anthropic.
he declines both.
he says if they release it that way, he goes public.
the reply is not a scientific objection.
> “why would you ruin your career?”
> “if you don’t want me to be nice, then i don’t have to be nice.”
later, a text to levent proposing a one-on-one:
> “i don’t know if tristan is being fully rational right now.”
that is not how you treat a collaborator. that is how you split one.
openai got word two researchers were closing a path almost nobody else was on. they spun up a team on that exact path. they would not answer whether the researchers’ unpublished drafts in openai’s product were used. they tried to dictate the announcement order. they tried to remove a coauthor because he works at a competitor.
when that failed, someone reached for a career threat.
this is a lab finding out academics were about to publish, sprinting the same narrow program, refusing the data question, and trying to manage credit around a rival affiliation.
really slimy if even half of this holds.
what the fuck is happening.
holy shit.
tristan buckmaster is saying openai has a forced navier–stokes blowup via the córdoba / martínez-zoroa program.
and that it may have used drafts from his and levent alpöge’s private codex sessions.
that’s the córdoba / martínez-zoroa route. almost nobody else was on it.
he also says the first prompt went out after information about his and levent alpöge’s work reached openai. that “very little human input” was not true. that a whole team had already been set on easier problems, including euler. that even the prompt they showed him was written by prompting codex.
then he asked:
did the model have their private codex sessions.
no answer on training.
if any of that holds, openai didn’t just scoop a math result. they may have done it off two researchers’ unpublished drafts, then tried to cut the coauthor because he works at anthropic.
a millennium-problem-adjacent result just became employee drama before an ipo.
i don’t even know which part is crazier.
this is one of the slimiest things i’ve seen in this industry.
Andrew Smith retweeted
Still more absolute 🔥 from Terence Tao:
“We have now seen that even the rumor of someone working on a problem can trigger a massive amount of AI-powered effort to flatten it before the original research project has time to reach its full potential. The incentives may now be pointing in the direction of no longer sharing any promising research directions with the broader community, which would reverse centuries of traditions of open science and do serious long-term damage to the future of the field”
Sam Altman is such a scumbag. If you’re doing anything that you think could be interesting, keep it off of OpenAI and codex. If it’s a stupid fun hobby, go for it, but do not use OpenAI for anything that is sensitive.
>sam altman: "we tried this because there were rumor on the internet"
>rumor: math professor close to solving navier-stokes
>the professor: using codex for a year
>openai: has all his logs
>checked every codex session tagged to N-S
>found the most promising one
>spun up 10,000 agents to finish the proof where he couldn't
>they got caught
>told the guy if you say anything you'll destroy your own career
>he ruins his career over this
>openai: "we did not see his work"
>also openai: "we cannot rule out that de-identified data from their usage helped improve our models"
they stole it lmao
>sam altman: "we tried this because there were rumor on the internet"
>rumor: math professor close to solving navier-stokes
>the professor: using codex for a year
>openai: has all his logs
>checked every codex session tagged to N-S
>found the most promising one
>spun up 10,000 agents to finish the proof where he couldn't
>they got caught
>told the guy if you say anything you'll destroy your own career
>he ruins his career over this
>openai: "we did not see his work"
>also openai: "we cannot rule out that de-identified data from their usage helped improve our models"
they stole it lmao
Andrew Smith retweeted
You're missing the core drama of the story: Tristan is softly accusing OpenAI of having stolen their result from Codex chat logs.
Tristan then claims OpenAI tried to threaten him to not publicly disclose this, and that they'd give him the Clay Prize ($1M) as the "closest humans to the problem" if he'd agree to disavow his co-author, @__alpoge__ , who is at Anthropic.
This is HBO-level drama, but with math proofs.
Andrew Smith retweeted
My Telegram was hacked, block it. Same handle as here.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
This is an attempt at regulatory capture to ensure they can have a piece of an oligopoly.
These companies are in real trouble and are getting desperate in their claims.
Andrew Smith retweeted
CEOs are quietly realizing the AI replacement plan has a problem.
Two problems, actually.
One: the token costs for running AI agents are now exceeding what they were paying the employees they fired.
Two: when the tokens run out, the AI stops. Just stops. No continuity. No workaround. Just a spinning wheel where your workforce used to be.
You fired humans to save money and bought a subscription that bills you into a corner.
The employees you let go knew what to do when things broke.
The AI just invoices you for the outage.
And then there’s the permission problem nobody wants to talk about.
To do its job, the AI agent needs access. Full access. Your systems, your patents, your contracts, your future plans. Everything you spent years building, handed over to a process that has no loyalty, no discretion, and no skin in the game.
You didn’t hire a replacement.
You gave a stranger with no soul the keys to everything you own.
Enjoy.
Yea but neither of them ever believed it to begin with.
They were hyping themselves for private rounds where material misstatements of fact are not as aggressively regulated. Once they go public, they can’t make these hyperbolic statements.
It has nothing to do with scaring investors, it wouldn’t scare investors if they were replacing human work by the millions. It has everything to do with legal liability for knowingly making factually incorrect statements as a publicly traded company CEO.
THEY WARNED YOU AI WOULD DESTROY YOUR CAREER. THEN REALIZED IT LOOKED BAD IN AN IPO YEAR.
Sam Altman and Dario Amodei just memory-holed their own apocalypse. Both companies are preparing trillion-dollar IPOs. Both pivoted right before filing.
You cannot sell retail investors on a $1 trillion valuation while your CEO is on record saying the product will destroy half the workforce.
The data hasn't changed.
Hundreds of thousands of jobs have been cut in 2026. AI was cited as the cause of 26% of April's layoffs alone. White-collar payrolls are seeing the largest decline in any major sector in modern labor history.
Amazon cut 30,000 white-collar workers. Oracle, Dropbox, Block, all restructuring around AI. Thousands more jobs this month alone on our tracker blame AI. Graduate unemployment and underemployment are worse than any point since 2008.
The original warnings were accurate. The retraction is all optics.
They sold the gasoline and lit the match. Now they need you to believe the neighborhood looks fine for the next 6 to 12 months.
Andrew Smith retweeted
O CEO da OpenAI admite que a IA talvez não substitua humanos tão rápido quanto previam
Uber começa a questionar se o ROI da IA realmente fecha no mundo real
Starbucks remove sistemas de IA após problemas e falhas constantes
Microsoft reduz uso de Claude Code entre engenheiros porque os custos começaram a explodir
a parte mais engraçada da corrida da IA é que talvez a tecnologia não tenha encontrado seu maior limite na capacidade técnica…
mas sim na realidade econômica
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