The International Journal of
Controversial Discussions Vol 4 Issue 2: Psychedelics and Psychoanalytic Treatment
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Lilly wants to study and improve the psychedelic ibogaine, its neuro leader says
@ky_lahucik and @maxonwifi for Endpoints.
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Ayahuasca Impairs Fear Memory Reconsolidation and Promotes Rapid Structural Plasticity in the Hippocampus and Prelimbic Cortex
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Get ready guys
“I do think it is important to remember that, while setting is of course important, we can still get good results for patients in a less-than-ideal ambiance. To me, attentive and caring staff are the most important elements of setting and if we are to scale psychedelic treatments we may have to make do with less posh spaces.” - L. Alison McInnes
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“You have to form a deep bond for the treatments to work properly. So you can let go fully and surrender to it. And allow yourself to be that vulnerable.”
"Participant experiences and recommendations for psychedelic clinical trials and future treatment delivery: a qualitative study with experts by experience from the Psychedelic Participant Advocacy Network"
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Anon Psych retweeted
Are psychedelics anti-inflammatory!?
I am beyond excited to present the first systematic review and meta-analysis of the immunomodulatory effects of serotonergic psychedelics!
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Discourse around advance directives in MAID making me think about advance directives in psychedelic therapy.
Very good:
Safe & Effective Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy is Always Psychotherapy: An Open Letter to the FDA
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"The notion that the influence of highly skilled psychotherapists on the experiential aspects of psychedelic-assisted therapies can be legitimately excluded from the factors contributing to their safety and efficacy in these clinical trials is a blatant fantasy"
Idk why ppl r glazing this overwrought and self-righteous reproduction of a cynical, moralizing, tired & tiresome cliche
Psychedelic use, for most users, is part of a cycle of persistent grief. The grandeur of the neon sea of fractals and the ability to self-smash the infinite wonder button in the brain is, in fact, a sad consolation prize for having lost the ability to make meaning of the small, mundane circumstances of life.
Wild weekend swings between the light fantastic and its faltering, depleted aftermath recapitulate the broader oscillation between narcissism and nihilsm that characterizes contemporary life. The psychedelic trip, like all psychoses, promises a revelation that never quite comes, or insinuates a transmission that is never quite remembered. You know it's special. You know it's meaningful. It's completely, 100% yours. This time you'll find it for real. This time you'll be able to bring it back.
"I have come to know the deepest secrets of the universe," he thinks, bleary eyed in bed at 12:30 pm on a Sunday afternoon. "I have glimpsed the mind of God" she thinks, scrolling her stories, avoiding the certain overwhelm of reading an e-mail from a once beloved college roommate.
In the meantime, dust accumulates, calls go unanswered, dinner invitations go unsent, loved ones slowly disappear from life, one mild disappointment at a time. The chores that maintain half-decency become too boring, too meaningless, too immediately unrewarding to be worth the effort. And in that thorough and terrible neglect, the desert of honesty and care at the center of postmodern subjectivity yawns. The blistering infinite sacred, on-demand, and all it costs you is your will to show up for your mundane world, to keep trying to love your frustrating family, to try something, anything to rise above the infinite guilt of your unlived life.
Study Participant Perceptions of the Relevance of Therapist and Study Team Personal Psychedelic Experience
"Study participants demonstrate preference for prior psychedelic experience in therapist and study teams."
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Replying to @zenbrainest
I 100% believe 5-MeO-DMT is responsible for a higher rate of adverse outcomes, having experienced it maybe ~8-10 times myself before the ban.
I had an underwhelming and somewhat unpleasant experience the first time. So I went back to make sure. Turns out it wasn't that great any of the other times either.
It has a highly variable dose-response curve, too. Some people may get blown away after vaporizing 2mg, some can vaporize 10mg and handle it just fine.
This property alone makes it really terrible for use in any therapeutic context, quite frankly.
The Erowid dosage page has said this since before the compound was even banned! It still does!
I've seen this variation with others I know who have tried it, too. It's real and should be taken seriously.
Not only does it have a highly variable dose response curve, it is also overdose-able in a way that can cause very real medical problems. You don't really see vaporized N,N-DMT overdoses the same way you do with 5-MeO-DMT.
So, you have these people that look up the dose on Erowid or some other resource, think, "Oh yeah, I'm okay with a heavy dose, let's go!" Then they find out the hard way they're in the group that's on the highly sensitive side of the dose response curve.
Because of all those factors, it's generally always been something I consider mostly suitable for hardcore psychonauts. I generally would not consider it suitable for people new to psychedelics.
Shorter duration is NOT always better, despite it conveniently fitting into neat little observation windows for studies.
Longer-acting ones can sometimes be more gentle because they don't smack you with everything all at once. You'd probably be better off testing DOI than 5-MeO-DMT in a lot of people.
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Epistemic Discipline in Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy: Memory, Therapy Dynamics, Attachment Patterns, and Sexual Abuse
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"Observation" the keyword here. Surely paid at less than what insurance pays for therapy (already low). If regulations allow non-psychotherapists to conduct dosing sessions, then psychedelic therapy with actual psychedelic therapists will likely end up being a boutique service.
$CMPS $DFTX $HELP $STIM
I missed this last week, but there were additional clues regarding reimbursement for clinical services and monitoring of COMP360, a key variable that determines whether providers prescribe COMP360.
In a recent interview with BioPharma Dive, Chief Patient Officer Steve Levine indicated that they expect reimbursement to be higher per hour for every hour they're in the chair using COMP360:
"Yes, it’s a longer period of observation, but that’s also why we did the work we did a few years ago to put the reimbursement framework in place for these sites, so that regardless of how long somebody’s in the chair, they’ll be reimbursed for every one of those hours, and actually at a rate we expect to be higher than what they’re being paid for Spravato today."
Still some uncertainty around how reimbursement will be negotiated with payers along with payer rules, but Compass should have good line of sight into this given the close, ongoing conversations they're having.
Holy fuck. $17-22k for a dose of shrooms.
$CMPS $DFTX $HELP $STIM
Some useful details (some new/some not) from the @COMPASSPathway team this past week regarding pricing and commercial launch readiness, particularly at the Deutsche Bank 2026 Healthcare Summit and TD Cowen Neuropsychiatry Summit.
1. Drug Pricing: Compass cited roughly $50–$65k as the annual cost of Spravato and said it expects COMP360’s annual drug pricing to land around that range. Its assumption of three COMP360 doses per year on average implies about $17–$22k per dose.
Lori Englebardt, Chief Commercial Officer: "Right now, currently, on average, SPRAVATO is in the range of anywhere from $50,000 to $65,000 annually. We have, based on our discussions with payers, but also given the product profile and the value proposition that we're bringing, you can expect pricing on an annualized basis to be around that. We will be pricing on a per dose basis...
We believe that will be somewhere in the two to four range, which means an average of three [annually]. The reason I say two to four is not to be silly, but it is to articulate that there will definitely be patients that probably only need two, and there will be patients that probably need four. The average will be somewhere in the three range."
2. REMS/Label: Compass expects a broad label that could describe two initial doses at least three weeks apart, followed by additional treatment at the clinician’s discretion for a total of roughly 2-4 treatments per year. It also expects a REMS similar to Spravato’s, using much of the same clinic infrastructure, with the only key difference being six hours of monitoring instead of Spravato’s minimum two.
Steve Levine, Chief Patient Officer: "We expect a fairly broad label to essentially say for the treatment of treatment-resistant depression. As far as the dosing, we have studied up to four doses in a year in our COMP006 trial. They were up to three in the COMP005 trial. We looked at an initial dose in two different ways. One was a single initial administration in COMP005. That was our placebo-controlled trial. In our three-dose, low-medium-high 006 study, we looked at two initial administrations, three weeks apart. What we have seen from that study with the two initial doses three weeks apart, as well as from the part B data, the blinded part B data from the first study, where that second dose was given a bit later, typically between weeks 10 and 14, is that for many participants, there was a significant additional benefit of having a second dose.
Ultimately, we think that that will translate into a label that may talk about initiation of treatment as two doses no sooner than three weeks apart, with additional treatment at clinician discretion or as clinically indicated."
3. Commercial Reach: Compass estimates there are about 8,000 Spravato-certified sites today, growing by roughly 500 per quarter. It says approximately 80% of Spravato volume comes from 20% of sites. They are currently building out a sales team to develop prescribing-site engagement and a referral network, targeting all 8,000 clinics and roughly 2,000-2,500 nearby referring physicians, including psychiatrists and PCPs.
Lori Englehardt, Chief Commercial Offider: "These sites are growing at about 500 sites a quarter. So whereas there are about 8,000 now, by the time we launch, if that trajectory continues, there will be quite a few additional clinics that will be prepared to administer multi-hour treatments by the time we launch. This has been pretty remarkable growth. These sites are growing because they are growing in anticipation of additional multi-hour treatments coming to market...
We have already started our sales force hiring to make their offers contingent upon approval, to which they will cover all of these 8,000 sites. Most importantly, they will also cover referring physicians. So those physicians that are surrounding outside of these interventional psychiatry treatment centers to make sure that physicians who have treatment-resistant depression patients in their practice understand what the opportunities are for new products coming to market."
4. Reimbursement: Compass expects sites to have existing billing pathways available at launch while the psychedelic service codes remain in Category III. It also plans to seek a dedicated drug code for buy-and-bill after approval and estimates that moving the service codes to Category I could take about 18 months. It is also hiring field reimbursement specialists to help sites navigate billing for the time spent supporting and monitoring patients. Regarding billing at launch, Lori Englebert, Chief Commercial Officer, mentioned, "no site should be disadvantaged versus providing Spravato"; however, they also indicated this could contribute to a slower ramp-up period post-launch.
Lori Englehardt, Chief Commercial Officer: "We know the number one reason that physicians won't prescribe, and Steve alluded to it previously, if you don't get reimbursed or it's not easy to get reimbursed, they likely won't prescribe the product.
The patient has a bad experience because they're not well prepared, or they don't understand what is happening, or they themselves can't get the product reimbursed, then the sites will likely not prescribe. So we're trying to remove all those barriers, and because of that, it will take some hand-holding along the way to make sure that sites are well-trained, well-educated, and fully prepared, and can hopefully get the reimbursement codes through easily. Due to that, we anticipate the launch to be somewhat slow coming out of the gate, just because this is a new product, and sites are going to want to get a little bit of clinical experience before they start doing additional ramp. We do expect, if we do it well, that that ramp will be quite dramatic, and most likely be a pretty dramatic increase in fast fashion. Go slow to go fast."
Reiteration of Timeline: Compass continues to expect completion of its rolling NDA submission in Q4 2026 and a potential launch in H1 2027, subject to FDA approval and federal and state rescheduling. COMP360 received a national priority voucher carrying an FDA target of 30–60 days for review of a submitted application (some skepticism mentioned about whether they can meet this target). Federal law then gives the DEA up to 90 days to reschedule (April EO could shorten this timeframe). Following federal rescheduling would be state rescheduling. Compass estimates that 44–45 states, representing about 93% of the U.S. population, could reschedule within 30 days of federal action.
Overall, Compass appears to feel confident in its commercial launch plans and seems to have a good line of sight into regulators and treatment centers. I remain slightly cautious about reimbursement at launch. The existence of billing codes is helpful, but actual coverage, payer rules, payment rates, and clinics’ confidence that they will be paid adequately for a six-hour visit will matter for adoption. Uncertain and confusing billing pathways partly contributed to a slower Spravato roll-out back in 2019. Englebert has described feedback with payers as "overwhelmingly positive," so we shall see, and this will be something to continue to monitor.
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posh british lady drops truth bombs
Private insurance paid psychologists ~$300-325 (adjusted for inflation) per therapy session in 1980. Today the range is around $100-140.
Anon Psych retweeted
At the World Ayahuasca Forum, 100 Indigenous leaders gathered to discuss what happens when an intense psychedelic potion becomes a global phenomenon. I attended too — and I had questions.
Latest on my Substack: Mattha Busby on Drugs.
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