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Ma compos type pour le nations championship:
Gros - Mauvaka -Tatafu
Brennan - Guillard
Cros- Alldritt - Ollivon
Dupont - Ntamack
LBB- Moefana-BB -Grandidier
Attissogbe
Poirot - Lamothe - Falatea - Boudehent - Woki - Gazotti - Lucu - Gourgues
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A correction to some ignorant nonsense re Nations Cup.
Seen a few in recent days taking the World Rugby line that they have a) basically invented Tier 2 nations playing int'ls and b) given them "meaningful" games.
Let's address the first point by comparing to the same point in the calendar 4 years ago in 2022. These were the fixtures of each "Tier 2" side in the Nations Cup who would qualify for RWC 2023:
Georgia - Argentina XV, Italy, Portugal
Romania - Italy, Uruguay x2
Portugal - Italy, Argentina XV, Georgia
Uruguay - Japan x2, Romania x2
Chile - Scotland, USA (qualifiers)
Samoa - Australia A, Tonga, Fiji (PNC)
Tonga - Fiji, Samoa, Australia A (PNC), Hong Kong (qualifier)
Namibia - Italy A, Burkina Faso, Zimbabwe, Kenya (qualifiers)
So all the 8 sides were playing 3 games, and with exception of Namibia playing African qualifiers, were playing on average superior level of opposition which included the likes of Italy, Scotland, Japan, Fiji, or Argentina XV or Australia A, none of which is now possible with the inflexibility of the new schedule.
Then for the other 4 sides there was:
USA - French Barbarians, Chile x2 (qualifiers)
Spain - Classic All Blacks, Barbarians, Canada
Canada - Belgium, Spain
Hong Kong - South Korea, Tonga (qualifier)
So all but two of the 12 sides who would now be in Nations Cup played 3 games that summer. For about 8 or 9 of those sides the level of opponent has gotten WORSE (the African qualifier and Hong Kong the clear exceptions). Then if you consider Belgium and Netherlands were active in July 2022 the fixtures have gotten worse for them too as now they are inactive.
Now onto the second point about so called "meaningful" games. Let's ask some questions about this "competition".
Does it bring added prestige for the winner? No, because there isn't even an overall winner so it barely is even much of a competition, just two pools (they could have at least said the winner in the match between those two sides was the overall winner but they are instead pushing a lame tagline of "two pools - two winners").
But even if let's say it did, nobody is going to rate Georgia getting past sides like USA and a weak version of Samoa to win the tournament as an achievement any greater than if won a friendly against them. It isn't a big or prestigious enough competition to get most of the sides full strength. In fact Portugal or Georgia's friendly in 2022 vs Italy would have been more prestigious for them to win and have reason to full strength for than any game they will play this meaningless competition.
Does it make Tier 2 nations more money? No, the games basically sell similarly as they would otherwise do as usual test fixtures. The "competition" element creates close to zero extra added commercial value to the games in terms of fans, sponsors, or TV.
In fact they probably now make less money compared to 2022, because back then there were at least some Tier 1 opponents like Italy and Scotland, and even where there weren't at least the majority of games (besides the African qualifiers and a couple of PNC games) had a home team in them, so you were not getting as many Georgia vs Samoa type games at a neutral venue in front of about 10 people.
Does it lead to any big prize? As we all know it doesn't because you can't go anywhere in Nations Cup. Don't be so foolishly gullible into thinking Tier 1 sides are ever going to risk relegation now or ever. That is a con. On no measure is Nations Cup more "meaningful" in any way beyond the standard test matches that existed before.
In fact rather a lot about the Nations Cup has been a con. World Rugby has reduced Tier 2 sides fixtures vs top 12 opposition, giving lower level, less marketable games, more at no fan neutral venues, and been posting self-congratulatory press releases trying to con fans to think they have invented the never before seen idea of Tier 2 nations getting 3 fixtures each in the July & November window. Please do not fall for this.
The most you can honestly say is the schedule is an improvement for the African qualifier and Hong Kong - the two lowest of the Tier 2 teams (and obviously a huge improvement for Fiji - the highest). But for the other 10 sides, and don't forget the now inactive non-RWC Tier 3 sides like Belgium or Netherlands, it is no better and in most cases clearly worse than it was before, and does not overall work to increase the competitiveness of the global game.
Voici mon équipe pour la J25 de la Grande mêlée ! Et oui, je vois bien Pau faire un coup au MHR !
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A peine 22 ans et il va connaître un 4éme club !
𝗠𝗘𝗥𝗖𝗜 𝗛𝗨𝗚𝗢 🫶
Le club officialise le départ d’Hugo Reus.
Arrivé en décembre pour renforcer le poste de demi d’ouverture, Hugo aura porté nos couleurs avec sérieux, implication et professionnalisme, répondant présent à chaque opportunité.
Nous le remercions pour son engagement durant son passage parmi nous et lui souhaitons pleine de réussite pour cette fin de saison, bonne continuation Hugo 👋
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Allez go mission donner la cuillère de bois aux rosebeefs ! #crunch
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Une des bonnes surprises hier au stade Pierre Mauroy et de voir pas mal de belges dont des flamands dans le stade. Les belges comme les hollandais et allemands sont de plus en plus curieux de rugby !
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Il y a 6 ans, il nous prenait de haut en disant que l'on ete pas pret pour l'intensité anglaise. Avoir redorer le blason et rendu admiratif le gratin mondial est une des plus belle victoire de Galthié !
💬 Eddie Jones: "They really played some beautiful rugby with their ability to keep the ball moving, their support lines, their offloading in the tackle." #GuinnessM6N
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Le Coq Ovale retweeted
💬 Eddie Jones: "They really played some beautiful rugby with their ability to keep the ball moving, their support lines, their offloading in the tackle." #GuinnessM6N
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