priestess and paladin of Iomedae. Utopian. alt @latentgender

Seattle, WA
Joined March 2021
what I’m looking for in a community is people who take rat/EA ideas as given, and “yes and” them by talking about feelings with a non-berkeley-rationalist-dialect. “tpot” feels frustrating to me because it used to be close to this and now isn’t. I just want a name for this
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you may not like it but this is what it takes to be a peak twitter poaster
This is crazy to me because I read Hayek, Mises, Nozick when I was like…17? 18? But it’s true it wasn’t assigned. I just sort of assumed other lefty people hate-read this stuff like I did. I remember being in the library reading Mises just vibrating with rage—not even in a moralizing way, but because I found him epistemically indefensible.
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broke: ban foie gras woke: ban “foie gras or any meat that’s produced with worse cruelty than foie gras”
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wonder when timelines become short enough that I should take the case off of my phone
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my version of “I could land the plane” is that I think I could do a better job at conquering the world of Terra ignota than JEDD Mason
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I would simply shoot sniper with a gun
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there’s lots of details but something like this seems just straightforwardly the only way to have a good pluralistic society after ASI
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things will be okay because we are watched over by the people who believe in Derp Atheism
For what it’s worth I think everything will be okay. The singularity, the course of history, the fate of humanity. We will be okay. We are watched over by something like a divine spirit, one that guided us this far in the first place. The flower is about to bloom.
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I think people talking about AI seriously overestimate the extent to which the maintenance of democracy in America rests on threats of violence from ordinary people or threats that people won’t work if elections are cancelled
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I just don’t think that these things are serious obstacles to an authoritarian takeover here. And without these things it’s not clear why democracy is unable to survive and yet it seems relatively robust!
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Multiplying some numbers from a LLM gives ~12 traffic deaths caused by each additional year of delay in California high speed rail
Replying to @leet_codes
the delays to California high speed rail almost certainly had a death toll greater than 10 humans! Maybe the planners would be horrified if they thought through the consequences of their own actions but that’s not really a point in their favor
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Without commenting on the specific policy questions I do think that this is one of the better public criticisms of Anthropic. I don't agree with this enough to stop working here but I do think that nearby versions of me do agree with this take in this specific case without going over to the full copenhagen-interpretation-of-ethics. I think that you have a responsibility to spend some effort to not fall victim to naive unilateralist's-curse issues / to generally engage in a cooperative way with larger society and that this does in some situations Like I would not secretly build ASI in dath ilan even if I had thought through the issues and decided that everyone else was too paranoid about them and this was the best-expected-value thing by my own reckoning, because that's a policy that's just a disaster widely applied. I think the argument in favor of building ASI has to run through things like "The government is asleep at the wheel and will not wake up so in this case I can do the unilateralist thing" and I think that if you do things like this you have some responsibility to check if you're wrong. I think that reasonable people can disagree into how many resources you’re obligated to spend like this
Dario — Thank you for taking the time to respond to my previous post. I think it's great when this kind of engagement happens in public rather than on company Slacks, and I hope to see more of it. I agree that Anthropic isn't best modeled as a profit-maximizer. Your post gave several compelling examples of Anthropic taking competitive hits for safety, and insofar as my previous post suggested otherwise, that's on me. But I don't think I made my main point as clearly as I could have, so let me try again. It comes down to four key claims: 1. Anthropic seems to be racing at breakneck speed to build recursively self-improving superintelligence (RSI). By its own lights, that could kill billions of people or literally destroy the world. 2. Risking destroying the world is very hard to justify. It is only conceivably acceptable if serious attempts to put RSI under robust societal governance are failing. 3. Far from meeting that burden, Anthropic, when push comes to shove, often works to keep governments from tying its hands. It seems to care much more about preventing government overreach than about reducing the risk that it and other AI companies will destroy the world. 4. Even if the AEGIS Act really was an honest mix-up, as you suggest, that is itself a serious problem. It suggests Anthropic isn't treating the governance of this technology with anything close to the gravity it deserves. In greater detail for those who want it: 1. Anthropic is racing to RSI, and by its own lights that is insanely risky. Launching RSI could literally destroy the world. That's according to you, your co-founders, and most of your safety staff and capabilities researchers, not to mention many AI researchers outside your walls. You are intentionally trying to create generally intelligent systems more capable than all humans that you claim in six to twelve months “could be capable” of taking over the entire internet before we have the ability to reliably monitor, control, or align them. “Succeeding” at RSI could kill or permanently disempower billions of people in the near future, including me and everyone I love. Yet Anthropic’s primary focus seems to be marshalling an immense amount of resources and talent in a race to get there first. 2. Risking destroying the world carries an enormous burden of justification. I believe the vast majority of people do not want Anthropic to do this (to the extent they know what it's doing). Imposing even a modest chance of catastrophe on billions of people who never consented requires an extraordinary justification. The central one Anthropic has offered: someone will build RSI regardless, so it's better for a safety-focused lab to be at the front of the pack, using that position to support strong AI governance. (Other reasons Anthropic has given, like modestly accelerating improvements in healthcare or economic growth, don’t seem remotely proportionate to the risks Anthropic is imposing by its own lights.) But that argument only works as a last resort. Racing to RSI is only conceivably okay if attempts to institute robust societal governance to manage that race are failing despite your best efforts. A lab that relies on this justification should be a strong, consistent supporter of efforts to enact governance that could bind it, including governance that could slow it and significantly constrain what it does. 3. Rather than supporting efforts at strong regulation, Anthropic has intervened to keep governments from tying its hands. Anthropic has sometimes helped: it played a very helpful role in passing transparency bills in Illinois and ongoing efforts in Massachusetts, and I'm sincerely appreciative. But transparency is far from enough for a technology that will be the world's most powerful superweapon at best, and an uncontrollable swarm of lethally superintelligent agents at worst. When it matters most, Anthropic has often pushed for weak regulation. The AEGIS Act is the most obvious example. No highly risky industry is regulated as anemically as AEGIS would regulate frontier AI: not nuclear, not banking, not aviation, not food safety, not the manufacture of explosives. In all of those industries, specialist regulators can address unsafe practices well before they cause harm. AEGIS would bar the federal government from intervening to block unsafe development or deployment of models until there is an "imminent risk" of catastrophic harm, and would require it to meet a demanding burden of proof in court. Worse, AEGIS would also prevent states from picking up the slack. This design makes perfect sense if you're a company trying to minimize the risk that the government can overly constrain you. It makes little sense if you want American democracy to govern frontier AI effectively. This isn't the first time. The initial version of California's SB 1047 would have let the Attorney General sue to stop developers like Anthropic from imposing unreasonable risks of catastrophic harm. It would also have created a regulatory agency to help set safety standards. Anthropic objected, and helped get both provisions removed before ultimately offering some support for the bill (which I also genuinely appreciate). I’m not saying that Anthropic should have supported 1047 in its initial form; that’s a complex issue and I realize there were questions about whether earlier versions of the bill were less politically feasible. Still, in Anthropic's own words, it helped weaken the bill because "[t]here is a substantial risk that the bill and state agencies will simply be wrong about what is actually effective in preventing catastrophic risk, leading to ineffective and/or burdensome compliance requirements." The same goes for New York's RAISE Act, whose initial version also would have let the Attorney General sue to stop unreasonable risks of catastrophic harm. Anthropic credits itself as a supporter of RAISE, but it did not support the bill while it was in the legislature, including when it nearly died. After the bill passed the legislature, Anthropic publicly critiqued it, saying "Any state proposals should be narrowly focused on transparency and not overly prescriptive." Why does Anthropic consistently take the risk of clumsy government action far more seriously than its own repeated warnings that companies like Anthropic will literally destroy the world by racing to RSI? 4. Even if AEGIS was an honest mix-up, that is itself a serious problem. Your response frames AEGIS as an early draft and a miscommunication. Perhaps you would have strengthened it and narrowed its preemption. (That wouldn't explain Anthropic's interventions to weaken SB 1047 or RAISE, but leave that aside.) Suppose that's exactly right. A federal framework for governing RSI is one of the highest-stakes documents your company will touch. Your post admits Anthropic "could have handled [these matters] better," but its tone ("This kind of thing happens a lot in large organizations") doesn't reflect the gravity of this issue. Anthropic talks about the need for “operational excellence” in critical areas, and I have a hard time believing that a similarly cavalier attitude would be tolerated while Anthropic was negotiating a key compute deal or preparing its next large pre-training run. In short The justification for racing rests on Anthropic fighting for strong governance, and Anthropic's record on regulation points the other way. Together with its breakneck racing, that fits a much darker picture of the company than the one that seems to prevail among your employees. I hope that Anthropic reflects on this picture, supports stronger regulation, exercises extraordinary caution when advocating for weak regulation, and doubles down on its founding purpose of helping the world safely navigate transformative AI together, instead of prioritizing Anthropic’s ability to win a race that imposes intolerable risks on everyone alive.
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Had a dream where I got isekaid into dath Ilan, tried to do some sneaky things and immediately got pwned by security that was much smarter than I am
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I think I have a problem where my ideal social context is a situation where there are lots of close friends groups that I’m all medium-close to and I can jump between them really easily. But this seems very hard to replicate outside of college!
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I had this for like a year in college and it was fantastic. I think vibecamp was kinda close to this this year, and I’m currently in a temporary social context that’s kinda close to it, but it doesn’t feel like there’s a path to building something like this in my daily life
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Reminder that mainstream society routinely prioritizes animals over humans it’s just that, unlike EAs, they do it in an insane and inconsistent way
California hasn't built its bullet train because the state has required 130,000 pages of environmental reports, making absurd demands like: • counting bumblebees one by one • rebuilding woodrat stick huts • hiring specialized dogs to sniff lizard scat
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how funny would it be if the CA actually had a totally fine procedure for generating random numbers but they just got super unlucky
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the problem is that other people try to replace due diligence with ingroup heuristics but they choose the wrong ingroup
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there exist worlds that are actually just offense dominant and you probably don’t want to adopt a policy that burns those worlds down
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EigenGender 🔸 retweeted
living in the shadow of annihilation is bad for people. even if they're right.
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okay you have to admit that choosing “4” as a reverse psychology style secret key worked out fairly well it took ages for people to guess it
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