Elliot💚 (@GSJS_1) header
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Joined July 2023
Don't move on, its not just an internet argument, we want people to care about animals, and theres more you can do then just being vegan, Your voice matters.
all this anti vegan stuff on my tl ohh my god . can we accept that vegans are objectively morally in the right and move on 😭
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What everyone doesnt understand is if the majority of meat eaters thought the suffering was bad and advocated for a new food system even while still eating meat we would advance the world so much quicker, dont throw out logic because you cant personally commit to being vegan.
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It would be amazing if the Left could adopt Lab meat/animal ethics as a key movement in their party
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These would still make you vegan, its about reducing as much harm as you can while still being healthy, I hate how anti-vegans use this excuse to justify 99% of people eating meat like twice everyday and not caring about it.
It's also a healthy privilege. If you've had breast cancer, you likely can't have soy. If you have any allergy that aligns with vegan replacements, soy, nuts, legumes, etc. you can't have a lot of vegan food, and so on. Not everyone can be vegan.
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Anti-vegans think its a "universal dietary prescription" when its really a movement about wanting to end the suffering of billions, how we do that is another conversation.
Replying to @themeowist
you cannot impose a universal dietary prescription w/o accounting for these conditions. otherwise you disregard the material realities of people concerned. also, veganism's broader adoption would've implications for entire sectors of production & livelihoods of numerous people
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Everyones just got to be for the common good and this wouldnt be so confusing, lets not try to "win" arguments but rather actaully come to understandings.
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Think about it like this, maybe you not being vegan isnt the same as slavery, but the point is that the treatment of the ANIMALS is still slavery, its about them and you can hate a system even if you think its currently vital to society.
Someone replied to one of my comments comparing not being vegan to slavery and if you think like this please don’t interact with me on my page
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All we need is humans to come together and agree animal suffering is wrong, it being ignored will cause hundreds of billions more to suffer needlessly, I am not saying the world must go vegan, but rather create a unified plan to change to a new and ethical food industry.
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I would argue this is the most realistic way to end World Hunger aswell, if food can be easily cultivated and nutrients improved then it can be spread across the globe.
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Can every leftist atleast agree that all AI funding should go to cultivated/lab meat?
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Apparently vegans are responsible for solving every problem the world faces lol??
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"Why arent you guys mad at the industry" do you not realize that's the entire vegan argument, unfortunately if we just allow the other 99% of society to laugh about it then nothing will ever happen, industries are mostly run by the demand of the people.
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The first civilized country will be the one that perfects lab meat
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"Appeal to nature" is a literal fallacy, the words "meant to" have no effect on ethics, how something happens is not how it should be, some examples are medical conditions,murder,pain and childbirth mortality, all natural things that humans seek to solve
BECAUSE WE ARE MEANT TO EAT ANIMALS, WE WOULD NOT HAVE EVOLVED TO IF WE WEREN'T MEANT TO!!!
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Advocate against it without throwing shade at vegans then, we cant control every argument that meat eaters inflate and give attention to.
I hate the meat industry but i also hate how stupid vegans arguments are What the fuck are you talking about
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Vegans need to embrace this for us to have a chance at fixing the world.
Regrettably since we vegetarians and vegans do not have a military the best bet is to change the material conditions haha and invest in artificially grown meat. I would say that it might even be a moral imperative even more than not eating meat to do so.
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Regrettably since we vegetarians and vegans do not have a military the best bet is to change the material conditions haha and invest in artificially grown meat. I would say that it might even be a moral imperative even more than not eating meat to do so.
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i think y’all need to realise that i see all animals the same way i see my cat; as individuals with lives, personalities and feelings. of course i’m gonna argue from that perspective. i have genuine empathy for these animals.
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Funny how Vegans are berated for acting "morally superior", but no one mentions the thousands of meat eaters who explicitly state they dont care and want to be morally inferior
bro I'm gonna be honest I genuinely don't give a fuck about animal rights, animals aren't moral agents and we're not obligated to care about them in any way
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Lions are moral-less wild animals, whereas humans have the choice of what foods to buy at a grocery store, even if you think we "need" meat to live, then why not eat it as little as possible?
I’m genuinely curious why you consider eating meat murder? What makes us different from a lion hunting prey
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