Earlier, I posted a video with commentary about the conversation below that I agreed with. However, I later learned about his broader views, which I do not want to promote or endorse. Reposting with a screen recording of the relevant commentary. Josh McPherson: "We're here to govern, not Pastor." Josh Howerton: "Ahhhh...That's important." Josh McPherson "I get nervous with the word accountability. Because I think sometimes it can be a way where men with less courage control men who have more courage and they're afraid they're going to get them in trouble. The private shouldn't be able to tell the lieutenant where we go." The defining feature of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is Apostle-governed churches where you have one man (whether they use the word Apostle or not) at the top who directly "hears from God" in order to lead and direct the church. This is exactly it. They are telling you. They are literally saying it out loud. Friends, if you are in a church that is led this way, you are in a very spiritually dangerous situation. I'm saying this because I care about your soul. I pray you find wisdom to see clearly and find a church that has biblical leadership in place.