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When the Son of Man returns, will He find FAITH?
Are you bored at church because you're hungry for more? Is it hard to sit there week after week? That's not wrong. That's God stirring you. Don't ignore it. Pray it through and take that stirring vertical. God promotes. Not men.
**An Open Letter to Anyone Considering Mormonism**
If you are considering joining the Mormon Church, I am not asking you to take my word for it. I am asking you to do what God told you to do: test it.
*“Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves.”* — 2 Corinthians 13:5
*“Test everything; hold fast what is good.”* — 1 Thessalonians 5:21
*“Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God.”* — 1 John 4:1
God commands testing. But testing is only possible if you have something fixed to test *against*.
That is what the Bible is. The Bereans in Acts 17:11 did not just feel good about what Paul said. They “examined the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.” The Word was the guardrail. It gave ordinary believers a standard outside of the man speaking, so no man could corrupt the faith and call it revelation.
I believe in continuing revelation — for personal prophecy, for personal guidance. I do not believe it can become new doctrine that overrides truth God has already given. The moment revelation is allowed to override the Word, you have no guardrail left. And without a guardrail, you get cults.
In true Christianity, revelation is tested by the Word. It is never primary unless it agrees with the Word, because if it does not agree, you have no protection from false teaching.
That is the first thing you must give up to follow Mormonism: the Bible as your final test.
In Mormonism, that order is turned on its head. The living prophet and continuing revelation come first. The Bible comes second — and only “as far as it is translated correctly.”
That disclaimer is not a footnote. It is the whole system. Once the Bible can be dismissed as mistranslated whenever it disagrees with the prophet, it can no longer test the prophet. A prophetic word cannot be tested. Truth cannot be confirmed. You have no standard left.
And the attack goes further than a translation error. To destroy the credibility of the Bible means to claim it never said those things in the first place.
When the Bible contradicts Mormon doctrine, the answer is not to argue the meaning of the text. The answer is to claim the text itself was corrupted, lost, or changed — that what you are reading is not what God originally said. No manuscript is produced. No original is shown. No corrupter is named. Just the claim, and then: “Trust us” — with a wink.
But the excuse doesn’t work.
First, make them name it. How do they know this? Where did they learn that, and how did they confirm its authenticity? Which verse was changed? When was it changed? Who changed it? What did the original say? They can’t tell you. They know *some old Jew* did it, but they can’t name him, date him, or show you what he changed. That’s not evidence. That’s an assertion — and the person making the claim has to prove it.
Second, history makes total corruption impossible. We have over 5,800 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament alone, plus 10,000+ in Latin and thousands more in other languages — copied in different countries, by different groups, including groups that hated each other. For the Bible to be corrupted the way they need it to be, all of those independent copies, across continents and centuries, would have had to be changed in the exact same way, with no trace left behind.
The Dead Sea Scrolls prove it for the Old Testament. The Great Isaiah Scroll was copied around 125 BC, about 1,000 years before our oldest complete Hebrew Bible — and it’s about 95% identical, with the differences being spelling and word order, not doctrine. We have the receipts, and they don’t show a rewrite.
Third, it kills their own book first. If God couldn’t preserve the Bible through human copyists, why should you trust Him to preserve the Book of Mormon? The Book of Mormon has zero surviving manuscripts, no plates to examine, and it was translated from a single source that disappeared. It has also gone through thousands of changes since the 1830 edition.
And worse — the Book of Mormon quotes long passages of Isaiah and other Old Testament books directly from the King James Version, including the KJV translators’ own added words and KJV translation errors. If the KJV is corrupted, the Book of Mormon copied the corruption word-for-word.
They need the Bible to be reliable enough to quote it as proof, but unreliable enough to dismiss it when it contradicts them. They can’t have both.
If the Bible never said it in the first place, then you can never prove it did. You can never check the prophet against the Word, because the Word has already been disqualified before the test begins. That is not an honest disagreement over translation. That is destroying the witness so the prophet can never be cross-examined.
And they say it even more plainly: “When the Prophet speaks, all the thinking is done.”
How convenient. Another untestable standard.
Why this? So you can’t question. But God said you *must* test prophets:
*“Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said.”* — 1 Corinthians 14:29
You are commanded to weigh it. Mormonism commands you not to.
That’s why revelation comes first in Mormonism — so you can explain away that command, and the others, by destroying the credibility of the Bible, by implying the translations were corrupted by some old Jew.
When asked to reveal him? They can’t tell you. But they know he did.
And that lack of protection is itself evidence of a false doctrine. God would not command you to test your faith and then give you a faith that cannot be tested.
The second thing you must give up is the unchanging God.
*“I the LORD do not change.”* — Malachi 3:6
*“With whom there is no variation or shifting shadow.”* — James 1:17
If today’s revelation can say the complete opposite of what God said 40 years ago, then God is no longer unchanging. He becomes a god who cannot remember what He said, changing His mind constantly. Today’s truth can be tomorrow’s error, and tomorrow’s prophet can overturn today’s prophet. Nothing is ever settled. Nothing can ever be trusted as final.
That is the slippery slope of continuing revelation as doctrine. Once you accept that a new word can cancel an old word, you have accepted that no word is safe — including the one you are being asked to believe right now.
The third thing you must give up is any way to protect yourself from deception.
In place of the Berean test, you are left with only one test: a feeling. Pray about it, and if you feel good, it must be true.
But feelings can deceive. And God warned you about exactly that:
*“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”* — Jeremiah 17:9
It’s not just a little wicked. It’s *desperately* wicked. That is a clear warning: beware of following your heart.
Mormonism asks you to do the very thing God warned you not to do — to make your desperately wicked heart the final judge of truth. A feeling cannot be examined, cannot be checked against Scripture, and cannot be shared as proof. And the heart that produces it is the one thing God said you cannot trust to know itself.
So ask the question I have asked for 25 years, after leading a ministry outreache to Mormons:
How do you protect yourself against deception if the prophet is above the Bible, the Bible can be set aside as mistranslated, God can change His mind, and your only test is how you feel?
I still have not met a single Mormon who can answer that.
The only answer left is, “Trust us. Trust the prophet.”
That is not testing. That is surrendering the very test God gave you.
Mark Grote retweeted
This reply is for others reading through this thread.
My view of a hard heart is seen in this exchange. Notice how he attacks defensively. A hard heart cannot receive or process information objectively or treat people with respect. The conscience of a person like this is seared (1 Tim 4:2) and reflects bitterness, anger, resentment, judgement, and deep self loathing because they themselves cannot measure up to what their religion requires. So they take it out on others bowing a knee to the enemy, losing self control to the idol of feeling-good-about-yourself. In Mormonism, if they can convince themselves and others that you're worse than they are, they don't feel guilty or responsible for judging or hating you - and will treat as such as this Mormon does. But true Christianity offers no such escape as we know, because Jesus said, to love your enemy. So always be ready for the enemy to show himself in others who do not have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It's not them who speaks against you but the enemy who controls them.
C'mon! 👇
King David didn't even have a Macarthur study bible. He didn't even have John Calvin to illuminate his way, or entire libraries of academic and scholarly works available at a press of a button. He did not have the "creeds" or the "church fathers". He didn't go to a church and have a sainted pastor deliver a "meaty" sermon every week (those quotes are doing a lot of work).
Yet HE was a man after GOD's own heart. And the people who DO have all those things have on the other hand created the most innefectual ekklesia in the history of this nation.
Maybe we have conceptually completely missed the boat in our understanding of christian maturity.
Mark Grote retweeted
There is a vast difference between condemnation rooted in shame and conviction rooted in Christ.
Condemnation says, “You lied, you ARE a liar!” Condemnation always connects your identity to your failure.
But when you lie conviction says, “You are a royal son, and you are behaving below your nature. Stop it !”
Holy Moly! 20 year old ministry intern needs 6 month sabbatical after serving for 3 months.
This is the result of continuously pouring purpose into people without proper perspective. Yikes!
You CAN be a Christian and do Halloween. Yes you can. In everything you do, do it for the glory of God. 1 Cor
10:31. Ask me how you can do this.
My answer to this statement is...
• Is it a crutch to love your enemies?
• Is it a crutch to forgive someone who hurt you?
• Is it a crutch to serve others with zero expectation of anything in return?
• Is it a crutch to show mercy when every instinct demands revenge?
• Is it a crutch to hold yourself accountable when nobody is watching?
• Is it a crutch to practice humility in a world obsessed with self-promotion?
• Is it a crutch to extend grace to someone who doesn't deserve it?
• Is it a crutch to walk in truth when lying would be far easier?
I think we know who has the crutch here.
If you’ve ever given a single dollar to a political cause, you know the immediate punishment: an avalanche of calls and texts from dozens of campaigns and PACs trading your data, constantly hitting your phone from endless fake, local numbers.
As a professional marketer, here’s the most infuriating part:
In commercial marketing, doing this would trigger immediate violations, carrier-level bans, and massive fines. But political orgs exploit a massive legal and technical loophole to operate with impunity.
First, they use Peer-to-Peer (P2P) texting systems. Instead of an automated dialer—which is illegal without express consent—they load millions of numbers into a queue and pay someone to physically click a button to fire off each text. Because a human clicked a button, courts and regulators rule it’s technically not an "autodialer".
Second, to make sure you can't block them, their platforms aggressively spoof phone numbers—rotating through endless pools of localized virtual numbers ("neighbor spoofing") so every blast comes from a "new" local area code. The moment you block one, their system automatically rotates to the next pool.
They aggressively exploit the technical loopholes of a law meant to protect consumers, using "black hat" marketing tactics that would get any business shut down—all under the banner of protected speech.
Talk about violating the spirit of a law, if not the letter of the law.
Wonderful post by @GrahamCookeBBH
"Worship isn't just singing songs. Worship is a lens change.
Worship moves you from simply singing songs to entering into something. And it turns on one question: which direction is the song flowing?
So much of what we sing can circle around us - our striving, our trying, our asking for help with this and that. The invitation is to sing songs that relate from Jesus to us, not just from us to Jesus - songs in line with Scripture and with how heaven is worshiping.
When the focus turns from you to Him, worship begins to create the same atmosphere that is around the throne.
As Graham puts it: "We need songs about His majesty, we need songs about His glory, we need songs about His magnificence, because we need to connect with Him in terms of who He is."
The Upstairs view: Heaven is already worshiping. When you listen to how heaven worships and join in, you stop reaching up from your striving and start responding to who He is.
Try this today: Before you ask God for anything, spend a few minutes telling Him who He is - His majesty, His glory, His magnificence. Let that lift your eyes before a single request begins.
Worship that faces Him is worship that changes your lens."
The greatest problem plaguing the modern church is not a lack of vision or strategy. It is a lack of teaching on the baptism of the Holy Spirit — because pastors who have never been baptized in the Spirit themselves cannot teach what they do not know.
And here is the fruit: churches full of people whose lives are, in practice, no different from the world's. We show up on the weekend, we hold the right values, we profess that God is providential — but c'mon. In practice, where does faith actually factor in? When did you last hear God and act on it? How would you even explain how you hear Him — or have we quietly decided that doesn't matter?
If you stripped away the church language, would your decision-making look any different from your unbelieving neighbor's? They stumble through the dark, and so do we. That is not how the early church operated. There is no role for faith in a life you steer alone.
But when you carry the conviction of something God Himself told you to do, you can stand when things don't turn out like you hoped. You can stand against opposition. You can stand under persecution and still walk in peace. That is what the Spirit gives — and it is exactly what we have been ignoring.
We must go back to God, repent for ignoring the Holy Spirit, and ask for fresh manna — fresh direction for our lives and for our ministries.
It's hard to ignore what I don't see. What I don't see intentionally. I don't see understanding and therefore no teaching on the Holy Spirit. And most of all, I don't see baptism of the Holy Spirit like Acts 19:1-6. If we clinically scrub the Spirit right of the church, we shouldn't be surprised when the result is that we have built a spiritually immature church.
The more I see on X, the more I realize how lacking spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit is amongst supposed Christians.
Eyes are blind. Ears are closed. Many aren’t following basic, non-complex, principles that Jesus gave us to know who His disciples are and how we can spot them.
Maybe this is why He says “unless you become like a child, you will by no means inherit the kingdom of heaven”.
Children, especially little children, typically have “stranger danger”, so they stick very close to their parents or adults they know they can trust.
More adult Christians need to do the same, instead of being enticed to get into a car with a stranger offering them candy (aka random people online who are offering a different gospel)!
Stick to the Word of God. If someone is saying something that is contrary, choose the Word, because it is never going to lead you astray!
Stop wandering off with strangers and stay close to your Father! When someone tries to lure you in by saying “your Father sent me to pick you up”, run as fast as you can!