The Next Token podcast with Dillon Mulroy, Rhys Sullivan, and Sunil Pai

Joined June 2026
TNT Ep 07! "Code Mode Inside Code Mode." @mattzcarey joins to talk Code Mode, the dead internet of Facebook Marketplace, Claude game-modding, the AI agent moment for normies (?), and @RhysSullivan continues to make "Slop Superhighway" happen. /cc @threepointone @dillon_mulroy
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So @RhysSullivan tells Astra "make it fast" and goes on a walk. What could possibly go wrong?
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TNT Ep 06! "The Senior Engineer Death Spiral." Rhys and Sunil join the Jevolution, Sunil's blog annoyed Hacker News, Rhys recaps YC, and Rhys shows his latest dual-repo workflow.
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Bonus clip from today's episode to tide you over while we post. (The editing team loves to mess with @threepointone)
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Next Token retweeted
Cloudflare's AI gateway is underrated. AI gateway is good for individuals because you get a single API interface and a single bill for *all* models. You can be promiscuous in switching from GPT to Claude to Grok to Gemini, plus all the generative multimedia models, and the open-weight models too, like Kimi and GLM. Switching is easy, so comparing model performance and capabilities is easy. You change one line of code to switch models, and you don't have to sign up for any of the providers or manage API keys. AI gateway is good for enterprises, because you can govern which models your team has access to, set spend limits, track individual usage, etc. Give your teammates AI superpowers without letting all hell break loose. We use it internally at Cloudflare to safely manage AI access for ~5000 employees. AI gateway is good for everyone, because you get better observability, better security, better logging, and unified billing for all your AI usage. And the product keeps improving, with more new hotness coming very soon... To catch up on this stuff, tune into the latest episode of @NextTokenShow with special guest @michellechen, who runs Cloudflare's AI platform. 🍿 youtube.com/watch?v=gPBw5Cr9…
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Our very own @RhysSullivan is on the list! The other hosts are not jealous at all. Not even a little. Please don’t tell people that they’re jealous.
Announcing the 2026 ETN100, the 100 most influential tech posters on X etnshow.co/top-100
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Our guy @threepointone wants to know...what does your software factory MAKE?
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AI subscriptions are loss leaders...and we're all a bit spoiled by the current token price wars. More in Ep 05, available now!
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You can buy tokens on Temu. @michellechen explains how it happens (and hints subscription models might not last because of it).
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Bonus! 30 extra minutes we trimmed from Ep 05 about using SlopCodeBench in hiring, @michellechen shouts out @gpusteve, @dillon_mulroy reads the code/argues on the internet, etc.
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This is what happens when you listen to our podcast: You write a rad article that about the loss of collaboration in software engineering. Thank you @J_Kreutzbender & keep writing!
Oops took awhile to get this finished, life has been busy lately but finally got it written. What started out as listening to a @NextTokenShow episode really got me thinking about how much time we don't spend with our coworkers anymore jeremykreutzbender.com/blog/…
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Explore @threepointone 's open weight prepper tendencies. More: The Next Token Ep 05, out now!
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"People are going OUTSIDE and having FUN?!" -@michellechen on AI psychosis, shared with @threepointone and @dillon_mulroy See more on The Next Token Ep 05, out now!
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The Next Token Ep 05 - "I'm the Arbiter of Tokens and GPUs" @michellechen joins @dillon_mulroy and @threepointone to explain AI inference at scale, open weights, how the industry lights money on fire, etc. (@RhysSullivan returns next episode!)
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Who's up for a Next Token BOOK CLUB?! /cc @threepointone @dillon_mulroy @RhysSullivan @qntm
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AI alignment is a hard problem. Why not mix in some religion??? The Next Token Ep 04, all about alignment, is out now! Feat. @dillon_mulroy @threepointone @RhysSullivan
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Sunil has a new title! (Staying w/the show, of course.)
cloudflare has made the questionable decision to make "go find interesting people, figure out which weird things are about to become normal, and form opinions" my actual job. I’m moving into a new role as builder in residence. I wrote some thoughts. sunilpai.dev/posts/the-task-…
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