Tenny

the harm IS the lie if someone is willing to lie about something they know has very positive effects vs if they didn't lie about it (access to women collebs when a LOT of vtuber women do not do collabs with men, access to further financial gain because vtubing is overwhelmingly women creators with a male audience) what else are they lying about? they've shown they're willing to lie for personal gain, for years. why would you trust anything they say? why would you think being in a coalition with someone willing to lie for personal gain is a good thing to do? *it doesn't matter if you think it's silly that some women won't collab with men. I make MALE ON STREAM REEEEEE jokes all the time but I still understand their perspective, and anything revolving around why they do this or what about unicorns or whatever completely different conversation

I think its disingenuous to say that people inviting you to groups or dms is inviting the character and I do not think any creators think this way there are quite a few large female creators who are upset about this but they do not engage in drama so they will not say anything and that's fine to do, i defend people like that often the phrase "there are no friends in content creation" is a useful guard because by and large, there's a pattern of them throwing each other under a bus for views it it explicitly about deception; people playing nice with you until they think doing the opposite will gain them more public favor if you come from the position that everyone online is in character all the time and it's your own fault if you decided to trust too much and get deceived, then no one should ever have sympathy for you if you then say you've been backstabbed by a friend or someone you thought was a friend has wronged you how could they have? the internet is a tool for deception and you can never make any meaningful connections The whole point of being friends with someone is that you trust them more than other people. If you are actively lying about something to most people, that is probably something you should tell people you consider friends - if you don't trust them, you probably shouldn't be friends - if you do trust them, but still don't want to tell them, then that might be a sign that lie is a bad one I might come off as cynical because I've been burned a lot by people I trusted, but I still believe even in the trash heap of people willing to lie to further their own gains, you can find people who are genuine and are capable of being a real friend