Here is an interesting interview by the leftist US media with the then foreign minister Pik Botha in 1977. Mr. Botha (a Bad Apartheid Guy) makes some salient and hard-hitting points, which the likes of @tumzadr in all probability was never exposed to: 🎯"White people have been in South Africa for longer than white people in the USA, the difference is that the white people in the USA won their war against the British." 🎯"When white people came to the USA, there were millions of "Red Indians", yet there were hardly any left in 1977. In South Africa there were roughly 500,000 black people, and in 1977 there were over 17 million. This speaks to "different handling" of these population groups by these two respective countries." 🎯"Botha further makes the point that black people came to the US as slaves, not as nations, and that they had a very tragic experience until they were finally liberated. By contrast, black people in South Africa have never lived as slaves, but have always lived and been recognised as nations." 🎯"In 1976, 3 million black people in South Africa became independent with their own President, Prime minister, Cabinet and Parliament., referring to the recent independence of the Transkei " 🎯"4 million black children were attending school in South Africa, which, on a per capita basis, was double the average for Africa at the time (1977)"; 🎯"The wages of Africans in the Johannesburg area was 80% higher than the wages in Ghana (and the wages in Ghana was the highest in Africa (in 1977)"; 🎯"More than a half a million black workers had crossed the South Africa borders illegally (in 1977) to come and find work in South Africa, which suggests that conditions in South Africa were far better than in their own neighboring countries"; 🎯Not a single country today in Africa (in 1977) had "majority rule" except Botswana; 🎯"Botha also makes the point that the laws governing the home ownership and business rights were reciprocal. He acknowledged that black people could not buy homes and businesses in white areas, but the same went for white people, who were prohibited from buying homes and businesses in the black homelands." 🎯"South Africa did have racial discrimination based on colour, which Mr. Botha acknowledged, and emphatically stated that he could not and would not defend, and that (the government) believed that it should be removed. He stated that he could never defend "discrimination based on color for the sake of discrimination". No-one could defend it as being morally correct. He further stated that (the government) wanted to move away from it, and that they already had moved away from it, and that they will continue to move away from it. 🎯He stated that it was clear that they (the white people) could not be expected to move away from their land, birthright, language, culture, and civil systems, a that it would not be possible for the white South Africans to simply be "Shot up into the sky, and into the moon". 🎯The interviewer agreed and conceded that as much as America land belongs to him (as a white American), South Africa's land also belongs to the white people. To put this further into historical context, by the period of European exploration and colonization, Sub-Saharan societies had not independently produced the Scientific Revolution or Industrial Revolution package: systematic experimental science, industrial machinery, modern medicine, and the associated infrastructure and institutions. Transfer of these from the "The Bad Apartheid Guys" raised productivity, literacy, and life expectancy in many places over time, even while colonial rule involved extraction, coercion, and disruption. Post-independence results have largely been quite catastrophic. youtube.com/watch?v=aL4RJnXQ…