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.@gamdom, respectfully disputing this.
My Crash stats from your own data:
• 3 months: $29,658,099 wagered, down -$587,824
• 6 months: $50,438,443 wagered, down -$1,597,363
• Lifetime: $86,983,150 wagered, down -$3,718,328
Yet compensation received: $41,789.53.
The main issue with the methodology is that it only accounts for auto-cashout bets where the target would have been reached under the new formula.
Manual cashouts, which make up the vast majority of my Crash play, aren’t accounted for at all.
Crash is a dynamic game. Most players cash out manually during the round, even if they have an auto-cashout set. Looking only at auto-cashout results misses a huge part of the picture.
A 0.5–2% difference in house edge across this volume is substantial. The impact wasn’t limited to rounds where an auto-cashout target would now hit. The inflated house edge affected every bet, regardless of whether I used auto or manual cashout.
I’ve also spoken to other Crash players, and the compensation figures seem to vary significantly. One player received $5k+ on roughly $500k in wagers, around 1% of their volume. Applying that same proportion to my $86.98m lifetime volume would put the figure at around $870k, compared with the $41.8k credited.
Additionally, I’ve heard from several players who had no auto-cashout targets hit at all, yet wagered significant amounts on Crash and received nothing.
If the compensation methodology only accounts for auto-cashout bets, then these players appear to have been completely excluded, despite being exposed to the same inflated house edge.
This raises further questions about whether the current approach adequately accounts for the impact on all Crash players.
@provablyfairorg, I’d appreciate your take on this too. Should manual cashouts be included in the compensation methodology when the higher house edge applied regardless of how players cashed out?
@gamdom, I’m asking for a proper review of the methodology and a reassessment that accounts for the actual impact across all bets, not just auto-cashout targets that would have hit under the revised formula.
As @provablyfairorg reported, the actual house edge on our Crash game was higher than the advertised 1%, ranging between 1% and 3% depending on the player's target multiplier.
We've now changed the formula so it applies a flat 1% house edge across all target multipliers. The instant-crash rate remains unchanged, while all other crash points scale up slightly. The new formula can only produce an equal or higher result than the previous formula, meaning every historical round continues to verify against its original seeds.
We re-ran historical rounds using this new formula and wherever an auto-cashout target would now have been reached, we've recorded the bet as a win and credited the corresponding balance.
Total adjustment: $339,113.41 across 1,293 accounts. On top of this, we've allocated a further $250,000 in reload credits to those same 1,293 accounts, distributed proportionally to their individual adjustments.
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