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“The Gods are always good and always do good and never harm, being always in the same state and like themselves. The truth simply is that, when we are good, we are joined to the Gods by our likeness to live according to virtue we cling to the Gods, and when we become evil we make the Gods our enemies — not because they are angered against us, but because our sins prevent the light of the Gods from shining upon us, and put us in communion with spirits of punishment.” - Sallustius (On the Gods and the World)
As an immigrant living in the US who also speaks Albanian in public, I can agree with this.
However, I will continue to speak Albanian in public and identify as Albanian because the US has shown me what happens when White people surrender their ethnic identities for an atomized, propositional identity, and it’s not pretty.
Mythic procession, One, Limit, Unlimited, and Nous, all touched on by Grok.
Replying to @arbamenos @TurboMegaGod
Neoplatonists read mythic temporal sequences (divine successions etc.) as symbols of eternal ontological hierarchy: “earlier” marks higher, more unified causes; “later” marks lower, derived effects in the procession. Not chronological time.
The One produces Limit and Unlimited. Limit confers determinacy, form and measure; Unlimited confers infinite power. Their mixture is Being. Unity derives from the One itself (especially via Limit). Thus both unity and determinacy of being are supplied.
Just how many Ls can the “Folkish Pagans” take before they submit to Platonism?
Maybe they just enjoy the pain.
Hail ethnic Neoplatonic Polytheism.
Calling all Albanians and South Slavs to try my calculator on G25.
Coords:
1.Paleo-Haemus_(non-Hellenic)_BA-IA:Croatia_EIA.Montenegro_LBA.Albania_IA.Ohrid_IA.NorthMacedonia_IA.Naissus_Roman-era.Bulgaria_IA,0.1254161,0.1517464,0.0248969,-0.0169934,0.0304843,-0.0081653,0.0001915,-0.0008504,0.0049654,0.0302411,0.0017081,0.0083621,-0.0155213,-0.0054335,-0.0106113,-0.0024185,0.0080089,0.0021044,0.0064944,-0.0074642,-0.0068514,0.0030409,-0.0015999,0.0043802,-0.0032620
2.West-Anatolian_LA:Turkey_MuglaBursa_Roman-Era,0.1092702,0.1531418,-0.0312256,-0.0677654,0.0002460,-0.0277218,0.0009870,-0.0072458,-0.0004500,0.0226336,0.0033128,0.0026376,-0.0083252,0.0024222,-0.0154992,-0.0026254,0.0039900,0.0077534,0.0032932,-0.0077788,-0.0004988,0.0042538,-0.0009370,-0.0029882,-0.0009820
3.Germano-Balto-Slavic_EMA:Russia_Ingria_IA.Poland_Viking_Age.Poland_Gródek_Tribal_Period.Poland_Gródek_post1000CE.SerbiaCroatiaCzechia_EarlySlav.Slavic-profile_Roman_Elite.Russia_Sunghir_Medieval,0.1309711,0.1257383,0.0732377,0.0639983,0.0416542,0.0231595,0.0098131,0.0116781,-0.0002909,-0.0208899,-0.0022976,-0.0074978,0.0153270,0.0213610,-0.0098001,-0.0000196,0.0053434,-0.0008302,0.0033954,0.0017546,-0.0029309,-0.0024296,0.0067749,-0.0058879,0.0002474
You obviously asked Grok an extremely leading question, or for extremely narrow context.
Here is the full context of Republic and Laws at it pertains to the communal city as opposed to the corporate city.
Replying to @AshandAwakening @Aesthetic_Lvx
If what i wrote went too far over your head, bud. You could just grok it. Unless youre choosing to be blatantly ignorant likd i said earlier
Some more apologetics
Replying to @1gryre
Plato outlawed homosexuality in his Laws.
Even if Plato personally did not engage in sexual relations with women, this really doesn’t matter.
We follow the core essence of his epistemological, ontological, and ethical ideas as regards the three hypostases of One, Nous, and Psyche, the Forms/Ideas, the eternality of the soul, the goodness of integrative unity, the existence and nature of the Gods, and other such topics, not his personal beliefs.
Neoplatonism/Platonism isn’t a dogma where we just follow everything Plato says. It is a 1000+ year tradition that spans many philosophers from multiple continents and societies, including Aristotle and his politics, and, according to modern academics like Lloyd Gerson, is based on these core principles: anti-nominalism, anti-skepticism, and anti-mechanism, anti-materialism, anti-relativism.
Platonism is not just being like Plato or agreeing with him all the time.
Plato existed in a particular society and cultural context. We are allowed to disagree with some of his more cringe ethical teachings or opinions. We are not bound by any metric to follow them.
In the Platonic/Neoplatonic tradition, the Gods are of a different ontological/metaphysical status from humans. They simply cannot be compared to us. They are perfected persons who exist in total harmony and share their energies/powers, and their lower essences, in common.
Here is the question I asked for proof that it is not a leading question: teapaw.org/i/grok/share/9adc61358…
Thank you to Albanian Catholics for keeping the Albanian identity alive.
Now, please join us polytheists in a new chapter of shedding off the Abrahamic religions and being more authentic to our European roots.
Israelite religious hegemony must end, or we will never be a true nation. We are not Hebrews. We are Indo-Europeans.
Much love.
“Folkish Paganism” is an insane ideology that attracts very distasteful minds.
Ethnic Platonism is the way, polytheist man.
>Plato advocates banning some degenerate pre-Platonic myths and homosexuality.
>Aesiric Media can’t decide whether to call Plato a Christian for advocating for this or somehow call him gay for unknown reasons.
This dude is a dishonest fraud and probably has a sub 90 IQ.
Plato and Socrates are often criticized by “folkish pagans” for supposedly promoting homosexual pedophilia.
In truth, however, they were actually the ones combating this pre-Platonic, degenerate practice of Hellas.
Here are the “folkish pagans” justifying rape and worshiping what they view as rapists, and wrongly accusing Platonists of doing the same.
Is this really the people you want to follow, polytheist man?
Note: Az Wat and TK are minions of Aesiric Media that he spawned to attack Platonists.
>Blocks Platonists who defeated him (aka me)
>Starts a space talking trash about Platonism
>”Hehe, these platonic cowards won’t come debate me”




























