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Mehdi Hasan Accuses Israel of Destabilising the Middle East — Jonathan Conricus Fires Back
Piers Morgan: A lot of people think Netanyahu’s personal interests are driving this.
After October 7, he faces a reckoning with the Israeli people over the security failure. He’s also facing corruption charges that have been delayed pending the military conflicts.
There’s not much incentive for him to bring this to an end, is there?
Jonathan Conricus: I think it’s intellectually lazy to analyze everything happening in the Middle East through Netanyahu’s perspective.
Israel has been making military gains against Hezbollah, and success on the battlefield creates an opportunity to exploit an enemy’s weakness.
Israel is defending itself against attacks from Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah.
To say everything is part of the Netanyahu show ignores the agency and responsibility of all the other actors attacking Israel.
Piers Morgan: All right, Mehdi, your response.
Mehdi Hasan: Let’s deal with the agency issue. Many of those groups have said their fighting is tied to what’s happening in Gaza.
They’ve said that if Israel ends the violence and agrees to a ceasefire, they’ll stop fighting.
Jonathan Conricus: The genocide that Hamas started on October 7—
Mehdi Hasan: Can I finish a sentence? Your country is being investigated by the International Court of Justice. Let me finish my point.
Those groups have said they’ll stop if Israel stops its actions in Gaza. NBC News reported that Israel killed Nasrallah after he sought to link a ceasefire in Lebanon to a ceasefire in Gaza.
Jonathan wants viewers to believe Israel was minding its own business when Iran attacked. But Israel struck Iranian targets in Syria, bombed Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, and killed a senior Iranian general in Beirut.
When it comes to destabilizing the region, Israel is escalating wars across multiple countries. Forty countries have called on Israel to stop attacking UN peacekeepers.
And as for winning, former Israeli general Gadi Shamni, who led the Gaza Division, says Hamas is winning and Israel is losing badly.
Piers Morgan: Jonathan, your response.
Jonathan Conricus: Out of respect for you, Piers, I didn’t interrupt Mehdi the second time, even though his statement was littered with so many lies
Mehdi Hasan Accuses Israel of Destabilising the Middle East — Jonathan Conricus Fires Back
Piers Morgan: A lot of people think Netanyahu’s personal interests are driving this.
After October 7, he faces a reckoning with the Israeli people over the security failure. He’s also facing corruption charges that have been delayed pending the military conflicts.
There’s not much incentive for him to bring this to an end, is there?
Jonathan Conricus: I think it’s intellectually lazy to analyze everything happening in the Middle East through Netanyahu’s perspective.
Israel has been making military gains against Hezbollah, and success on the battlefield creates an opportunity to exploit an enemy’s weakness.
Israel is defending itself against attacks from Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah.
To say everything is part of the Netanyahu show ignores the agency and responsibility of all the other actors attacking Israel.
Piers Morgan: All right, Mehdi, your response.
Mehdi Hasan: Let’s deal with the agency issue. Many of those groups have said their fighting is tied to what’s happening in Gaza.
They’ve said that if Israel ends the violence and agrees to a ceasefire, they’ll stop fighting.
Jonathan Conricus: The genocide that Hamas started on October 7—
Mehdi Hasan: Can I finish a sentence? Your country is being investigated by the International Court of Justice. Let me finish my point.
Those groups have said they’ll stop if Israel stops its actions in Gaza. NBC News reported that Israel killed Nasrallah after he sought to link a ceasefire in Lebanon to a ceasefire in Gaza.
Jonathan wants viewers to believe Israel was minding its own business when Iran attacked. But Israel struck Iranian targets in Syria, bombed Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, and killed a senior Iranian general in Beirut.
When it comes to destabilizing the region, Israel is escalating wars across multiple countries. Forty countries have called on Israel to stop attacking UN peacekeepers.
And as for winning, former Israeli general Gadi Shamni, who led the Gaza Division, says Hamas is winning and Israel is losing badly.
Piers Morgan: Jonathan, your response.
Jonathan Conricus: Out of respect for you, Piers, I didn’t interrupt Mehdi the second time, even though his statement was littered with so many lies
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Enes Kanter Freedom Declares for the WNBA Draft to Challenge Its Gender Rules
Piers Morgan: I laughed out loud at the spectacle of you being harangued by female basketball stars simply because you wore a shirt saying what a woman is.
What motivated you to step into such a toxic debate?
Enes Kanter Freedom: I love the game and watch a lot of WNBA games. Around May, I saw Gabby Williams give an interview saying she had no problem with a trans athlete playing on her team or against her.
Then players, coaches, and the league itself were saying they had no problem with biological males playing in the WNBA. I thought, “Enough is enough. If you guys have no problem with it, I’m declaring for the draft.”
I read the collective bargaining agreement beforehand. Article 13, Section 1(a), says that if you identify as a woman, you’re allowed to play.
There’s no rule against it. I simply declared for the draft, and now the whole world is mad at me.
Piers Morgan: They’re not respecting your right to identify as a woman, even though they demand that anybody else who does it be respected.
The UN reported in 2024 that nearly 1,000 women and girls across different levels of sport had been deprived of medals by transgender athletes.
Biological males have physiological advantages, which is why we separate men and women in sports.
I don’t understand why women like Megan Rapinoe attacked you as a grifter for supposedly protecting women, when it seems to me you’re defending their rights to fairness, equality, and safety.
Enes Kanter Freedom: I’m probably the tallest women’s rights activist in the world right now. But this isn’t a left-or-right issue. It’s common sense, and I’m following their rules.
I’m not a difficult person or a troublemaker. I’m a peacemaker. If tomorrow the WNBA adds the word “biological” next to “woman” in its collective bargaining agreement, I’ll walk into the sunset, and they’ll never hear from me again.
But if they don’t, I’m eligible to play because I can identify as a woman and compete in their league.
All these coaches and players have supported the idea, yet when a man wants to identify as a woman, suddenly he’s getting hate. Who are they to judge whose journey is real?
I want to play basketball, and if they introduce another rule against it, I’ll follow it immediately.
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A person can spend 20 years paying off a mortgage, finally own their home outright, and still have to pay property taxes every year just to keep living in it.
Miss enough payments, and they could lose the house they spent decades working to own.
I understand that local governments need revenue for schools, roads, emergency services, and other public needs.
But there’s something uncomfortable about the idea that you can pay off every dollar you borrowed to buy your home and still never be completely free from the cost of keeping it.
SHOULD SOMEONE WHO HAS PAID OFF THEIR PRIMARY HOME EVER BE AT RISK OF LOSING IT BECAUSE THEY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD THE TAXES?
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Mosab Hassan Yousef Calls Palestinians’ Victim Narrative a Political Tool — Rahma Zein Pushes Back in Heated Clash
Mosab Hassan Yousef: “Palestinian is nothing but the victim narrative that we don't want to take responsibility for the choices that we have made over 70 years of conflict.
The allegation of apartheid doesn't make sense. It's just a broken record by all those who have been trying to delegitimize Israel.
Instead of saying we were defeated and Israel won, now they play the victim card. They have been playing the victim card for 70 years.”
Rahma Zein: Zein challenges this framing, arguing that it ignores Palestinian civilian deaths, the impact of Israeli settlements, and the realities of occupation.
The clash raises a central question: Is the Palestinian struggle being framed as a “victim narrative,” or does that label dismiss the realities Palestinians face?
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Trans Widow Reveals the Devastating Impact Her Marriage and Divorce Had on Her Family — Michael Knowles Reacts
Michael Knowles: Has anyone ever said the key to a happy marriage is deception, not knowing where your spouse is, and the pursuit of bizarre sexual fetishes that make the other person uncomfortable?
Has anyone ever in history said that, until five minutes ago?
Tracy Shannon: This was in 1998. Apparently, this therapist taught a class for many years in Houston about how to have a long and lasting relationship.
She also told me I must be a lesbian because I had fallen in love with a man who had this so-called inner feminine side.
I didn’t know anything about that, except that he borrowed my bra on a business trip, or I caught him applying nails or shaving a couple of times.
I didn’t buy into the idea that he had an inner female side he needed to express to relax. For that, I was close-minded and must be a lesbian because I fell in love with him and married him.
Michael Knowles: There is so much to unpack, even in the premise of what a lesbian would be. But you gave a simpler explanation earlier.
You say you walked in on your husband cross-dressing and that he was aroused.
You say he blamed you for this. Now, people would say he’s secretly a woman. But it would appear to me that you got the answer: it’s a sexual fetish.
He was aroused by the thought of being a woman or wearing women’s clothing. It’s a kind of base sexual desire.
Tracy Shannon: Right. I always felt instinctively that it was a type of infidelity. There was this elusive other woman he was creating to spend time alone with, and it was hampering our intimacy in our marriage.
But it’s even worse. This particular therapist you asked about? She’s now written a book to help parents transition their children.
Michael Knowles: You’ve gone through this personally and with such trauma. You go to counseling, and this woman takes your husband’s side and says you have to be open-minded and let him go out dressed in high heels, have his own PO box, and basically choose his sexual fetish over your marriage. Then what?
Tracy Shannon: It’s worse than that. She actually wrote him the letter to transition while we were married. We were married for 15 years, and this happened in the fourth year.
He then got on hormone therapy and started to develop little breasts while we were married. I was told the breast development was because he was taking OCD medication to help him not want to cross-dress.
I felt sorry for him. He was developing breast buds that embarrassed him, and he would wear a T-shirt when we went to the public swimming pool with our kids. I was trying to be a loving wife.
I feel very deceived that he was having this lesbian fantasy and growing these breasts while we were married and having intimate relations.
I think that totally undermines the idea of consent that is so popularized by the left, especially when they’re talking about our kids.
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Rural Voters Are Turning Away From Trump — A 72-Point Shift
Harry Enten: “This is a field of nightmares for the president of the United States.”
CNN analyst Harry Enten breaks down a major shift in rural voters’ views of President Donald Trump, describing a 72-point swing in the wrong direction.
He also points to a significant change in the generic congressional ballot. According to the figures discussed in the segment, Republicans’ advantage among rural voters fell from 32 points in October 2024 to just 14 points by January 2026.
Enten attributes the shift partly to the Iran war and rising gas prices, which he says have hit rural voters particularly hard.
The concern for Republicans is clear: even if they continue to lead among rural voters, a shrinking margin could make it harder to win congressional races.
If Republicans lose their strong advantage in rural areas, how much could that change the next congressional elections?
Trans Widow Reveals the Devastating Impact Her Marriage and Divorce Had on Her Family — Michael Knowles Reacts
Michael Knowles: Has anyone ever said the key to a happy marriage is deception, not knowing where your spouse is, and the pursuit of bizarre sexual fetishes that make the other person uncomfortable?
Has anyone ever in history said that, until five minutes ago?
Tracy Shannon: This was in 1998. Apparently, this therapist taught a class for many years in Houston about how to have a long and lasting relationship.
She also told me I must be a lesbian because I had fallen in love with a man who had this so-called inner feminine side.
I didn’t know anything about that, except that he borrowed my bra on a business trip, or I caught him applying nails or shaving a couple of times.
I didn’t buy into the idea that he had an inner female side he needed to express to relax. For that, I was close-minded and must be a lesbian because I fell in love with him and married him.
Michael Knowles: There is so much to unpack, even in the premise of what a lesbian would be. But you gave a simpler explanation earlier.
You say you walked in on your husband cross-dressing and that he was aroused.
You say he blamed you for this. Now, people would say he’s secretly a woman. But it would appear to me that you got the answer: it’s a sexual fetish.
He was aroused by the thought of being a woman or wearing women’s clothing. It’s a kind of base sexual desire.
Tracy Shannon: Right. I always felt instinctively that it was a type of infidelity. There was this elusive other woman he was creating to spend time alone with, and it was hampering our intimacy in our marriage.
But it’s even worse. This particular therapist you asked about? She’s now written a book to help parents transition their children.
Michael Knowles: You’ve gone through this personally and with such trauma. You go to counseling, and this woman takes your husband’s side and says you have to be open-minded and let him go out dressed in high heels, have his own PO box, and basically choose his sexual fetish over your marriage. Then what?
Tracy Shannon: It’s worse than that. She actually wrote him the letter to transition while we were married. We were married for 15 years, and this happened in the fourth year.
He then got on hormone therapy and started to develop little breasts while we were married. I was told the breast development was because he was taking OCD medication to help him not want to cross-dress.
I felt sorry for him. He was developing breast buds that embarrassed him, and he would wear a T-shirt when we went to the public swimming pool with our kids. I was trying to be a loving wife.
I feel very deceived that he was having this lesbian fantasy and growing these breasts while we were married and having intimate relations.
I think that totally undermines the idea of consent that is so popularized by the left, especially when they’re talking about our kids.
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Abdul El-Sayed Pressed on Whether He’ll Support Terrorist Designations for Muslim Brotherhood Groups
Martha MacCallum: “So, if you become a U.S. senator, will you support those terrorist designations of those groups in order to support U.S. national security?”
Abdul El-Sayed: “I think terrorism is the act of political violence, so I will support a terror designation for any organization that is engaged in or committed to political violence.”
Martha MacCallum: “Do you support the designations of the Muslim Brotherhood in those countries?”
Abdul El-Sayed: “I want to understand—show me that they're engaged. Any organization that is engaged in political violence, I will back a terrorist designation.”
Martha MacCallum: “So, on October 7th, the Egyptian chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood called for violent attacks against the United States, its partners, and interests. The Jordanian Muslim Brotherhood supported Hamas and they threatened Americans living in the region and our partners. So, do you stand by those designations?”
Abdul El-Sayed: “As I said, any organization engaged in political violence or calling for political violence is engaged in terrorism, and I would support those designations.”
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Stephen A. Smith reveals he challenged Trump over Iran, new wars and his claim to be the greatest president ever
Ana: You were at that dinner with Trump. Did you push back when he talked about socialism and communism having no place in American government, despite his dealings with Russia, China and Venezuela?
Stephen A. Smith: I pushed back when he brought up Venezuela, Ukraine and Iran.
I said, “You said there were going to be no new wars, but then there was a war. You bombed them, said they were obliterated, then came back and bombed them again.”
I also questioned the changing timelines, from four weeks to four months to seven months, before being told to wait until after the midterms.
Then he talked about bringing trillions of dollars into the country. I asked him, “Where is it?”
He said, “You’ll see. Wait for it.”
I said, “Really? That’s all you’ve got to say?”
He replied, “I’m the greatest president who’s ever lived.”
Ana: And you think he believed that?
Stephen A. Smith: He absolutely, positively believes he is the greatest president.
My opinion: Smith says he challenged Trump directly, questioning his promises on war, his claims about economic gains and his confidence in his own presidency.
Enes Kanter Freedom Declares for the WNBA Draft to Challenge Its Gender Rules
Piers Morgan: I laughed out loud at the spectacle of you being harangued by female basketball stars simply because you wore a shirt saying what a woman is.
What motivated you to step into such a toxic debate?
Enes Kanter Freedom: I love the game and watch a lot of WNBA games. Around May, I saw Gabby Williams give an interview saying she had no problem with a trans athlete playing on her team or against her.
Then players, coaches, and the league itself were saying they had no problem with biological males playing in the WNBA. I thought, “Enough is enough. If you guys have no problem with it, I’m declaring for the draft.”
I read the collective bargaining agreement beforehand. Article 13, Section 1(a), says that if you identify as a woman, you’re allowed to play.
There’s no rule against it. I simply declared for the draft, and now the whole world is mad at me.
Piers Morgan: They’re not respecting your right to identify as a woman, even though they demand that anybody else who does it be respected.
The UN reported in 2024 that nearly 1,000 women and girls across different levels of sport had been deprived of medals by transgender athletes.
Biological males have physiological advantages, which is why we separate men and women in sports.
I don’t understand why women like Megan Rapinoe attacked you as a grifter for supposedly protecting women, when it seems to me you’re defending their rights to fairness, equality, and safety.
Enes Kanter Freedom: I’m probably the tallest women’s rights activist in the world right now. But this isn’t a left-or-right issue. It’s common sense, and I’m following their rules.
I’m not a difficult person or a troublemaker. I’m a peacemaker. If tomorrow the WNBA adds the word “biological” next to “woman” in its collective bargaining agreement, I’ll walk into the sunset, and they’ll never hear from me again.
But if they don’t, I’m eligible to play because I can identify as a woman and compete in their league.
All these coaches and players have supported the idea, yet when a man wants to identify as a woman, suddenly he’s getting hate. Who are they to judge whose journey is real?
I want to play basketball, and if they introduce another rule against it, I’ll follow it immediately.
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MAGA Supporter Defends Trump’s Iran War — Then Admits He Lies About the Threat
Dean: Every opportunity Donald Trump has to ignore Scripture and bring about hate and division, he takes it.
We read in Matthew that the way you treat those who are lesser than you is the way you’re treating the Lord your God. Trump gives those with less than him the big old middle finger.
He took healthcare away from 10 million low-income Americans, took food stamps away from 3 million, reduced the purchasing power of the working class, and he’s killing children overseas while defending the predators and rapists in the Epstein files.
I don’t think there’s ever been an opportunity in Trump’s life where he’s put God first. In a 2020 interview, he was asked whether he ever prayed to God for forgiveness. He responded, “I’ve never had to ask God for forgiveness for anything I’ve done in my whole life.”
Donald Trump is not a Christian. He ignores Scripture, doesn’t pray to God, and is a blasphemer, especially after depicting himself as Jesus Christ on Truth Social.
MAGA Mom: I have a lot to say about that, Dean. I want to touch on the war first, then the Christian aspect. You’re saying he’s bombing and killing people, but I thought he hadn’t directly brought war to our own grounds. I know he picked up where Biden left off. No?
Dean: No. He started a brand-new war in Iran on February 28 of this year. It wasn’t a continuation of a war started under Biden. He started a new war.
MAGA Mom: So what was the purpose? I was under the impression they were getting ready to nuke us. That’s what Trump was saying. They had nukes and were going to nuke us. It was to protect us.
Dean: That is what he was saying You’re right. That is what he was saying. He said they were an imminent nuclear threat. And that’s the thing: he just lies all the time.
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Piers Morgan and Mehdi Hasan Confront Nancy Mace Over Her Claim About Muslims — The Debate Explodes
Piers Morgan: You said every single Muslim holding public office in America is a Trojan horse. Dr. Oz holds public office. Would you want him deported as a threat to national security and our republic?
Nancy Mace: I didn’t say Dr. Oz should be deported. I do think people who believe in radical
Piers Morgan: You said every single Muslim.
Nancy Mace: I was talking about elected officials being Trojan horses.
Piers Morgan: You didn’t say every single radical Muslim. You said every single Muslim. That’s all of them. There are 1.6 billion Muslims around the world.
Nancy Mace: No, I said elected officials.
Piers Morgan: You didn’t say elected Muslims. You’ve been caught lying.
Nancy Mace: I’m not lying. You can go back and quote my tweet.
Piers Morgan: Let me read it again so there’s no room for ambiguity. What she actually posted was: “Every single Muslim holding public office in America is a Trojan horse and a threat to both national security and our republic.”
Mehdi Hasan: Are congressmen not public officials, Nancy Mace? Is Marco Rubio not a public official?
Nancy Mace: He’s not a radical Islamist.
Mehdi Hasan: Nice try. You just said every public official is elected. Marco Rubio is a public official.
Nancy Mace: Don’t walk it back. Everyone can see your bigotry.
Mehdi Hasan: Everyone can see your bigotry. You just lied to Piers Morgan and got caught. Five years ago, you weren’t making these racist arguments.
In 2021, Mace went on CNN after Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert called Ilhan Omar a member of the “Jihad Squad.” Mace criticized them as racist and religiously bigoted.
Five years later, she’s making the kind of arguments she previously condemned. We’ve gone full circle.
Piers Morgan: Let her respond. There’s no point having this debate if you both just shout over each other. Nancy, respond to what Mehdi just said.
Nancy Mace: Five years ago, I was defending someone’s First Amendment right to wear whatever clothing they wanted. Everyone has the right to say what they want or wear what they want.
Fast-forward five years, and we’re seeing what I consider radical things happening in our communities. People are pushing back against what they see as Sharia law.
There are animal sacrifices in Michigan, a mayor in New York City giving a pen to a man who defended al-Qaeda, and the governor of New York wearing a hijab while speaking to men in a mosque days before the 25th anniversary of 9/11.
I find this offensive, and I’m going to continue speaking out. I think things have gotten worse over the last five years. We need people willing to push back against what I see happening in towns across the country.
Piers Morgan: Mehdi, do you want to respond?
Mehdi Hasan: It’s interesting she talks about Sharia law. It’s a boogeyman Republicans tried to use 15 years ago, and now they’re doing it again. Why? Because gas prices are high, nobody trusts them, and they’re losing in the polls. So they fall back on racism, bigotry, and Sharia law
Piers Morgan and Mehdi Hasan Confront Nancy Mace Over Her Claim About Muslims — The Debate Explodes
Piers Morgan: You said every single Muslim holding public office in America is a Trojan horse. Dr. Oz holds public office. Would you want him deported as a threat to national security and our republic?
Nancy Mace: I didn’t say Dr. Oz should be deported. I do think people who believe in radical
Piers Morgan: You said every single Muslim.
Nancy Mace: I was talking about elected officials being Trojan horses.
Piers Morgan: You didn’t say every single radical Muslim. You said every single Muslim. That’s all of them. There are 1.6 billion Muslims around the world.
Nancy Mace: No, I said elected officials.
Piers Morgan: You didn’t say elected Muslims. You’ve been caught lying.
Nancy Mace: I’m not lying. You can go back and quote my tweet.
Piers Morgan: Let me read it again so there’s no room for ambiguity. What she actually posted was: “Every single Muslim holding public office in America is a Trojan horse and a threat to both national security and our republic.”
Mehdi Hasan: Are congressmen not public officials, Nancy Mace? Is Marco Rubio not a public official?
Nancy Mace: He’s not a radical Islamist.
Mehdi Hasan: Nice try. You just said every public official is elected. Marco Rubio is a public official.
Nancy Mace: Don’t walk it back. Everyone can see your bigotry.
Mehdi Hasan: Everyone can see your bigotry. You just lied to Piers Morgan and got caught. Five years ago, you weren’t making these racist arguments.
In 2021, Mace went on CNN after Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert called Ilhan Omar a member of the “Jihad Squad.” Mace criticized them as racist and religiously bigoted.
Five years later, she’s making the kind of arguments she previously condemned. We’ve gone full circle.
Piers Morgan: Let her respond. There’s no point having this debate if you both just shout over each other. Nancy, respond to what Mehdi just said.
Nancy Mace: Five years ago, I was defending someone’s First Amendment right to wear whatever clothing they wanted. Everyone has the right to say what they want or wear what they want.
Fast-forward five years, and we’re seeing what I consider radical things happening in our communities. People are pushing back against what they see as Sharia law.
There are animal sacrifices in Michigan, a mayor in New York City giving a pen to a man who defended al-Qaeda, and the governor of New York wearing a hijab while speaking to men in a mosque days before the 25th anniversary of 9/11.
I find this offensive, and I’m going to continue speaking out. I think things have gotten worse over the last five years. We need people willing to push back against what I see happening in towns across the country.
Piers Morgan: Mehdi, do you want to respond?
Mehdi Hasan: It’s interesting she talks about Sharia law. It’s a boogeyman Republicans tried to use 15 years ago, and now they’re doing it again. Why? Because gas prices are high, nobody trusts them, and they’re losing in the polls. So they fall back on racism, bigotry, and Sharia law
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Piers Morgan Challenges Israel’s Gaza Death Toll Figures — Then Accuses Jonathan of Lying
Piers Morgan: If the Gaza Health Ministry’s numbers are wrong, how many people have been killed?
Jonathan: Based on information I’ve corroborated from Israeli sources, Hamas sources, and open-source intelligence, the IDF assesses
Piers Morgan: Oh, you’re gathering information from Hamas sources. You do trust them, after all.
Jonathan: Yeah.
Piers Morgan: When they issue obituaries or pay stipends to widows, I’m sure you’ll take that into account.
So, according to you, Jonathan, how many people have been killed in Gaza since the war started?
Jonathan: Based on the different sources of information, around 38,000 or 39,000 people who were probably not combatants. That’s my understanding, based on insufficient
Piers Morgan: And at least 25,000 terrorists, according to the IDF, with a high level of certainty. So your total is about 63,000?
Jonathan: Roughly.
Piers Morgan: That’s around 12,000 fewer than the official Gaza Health Ministry figures. You’re also not factoring in natural deaths or deaths caused by Hamas.
Let’s take your figure: 38,000 civilians killed. How many civilians were killed on October 7?
Jonathan: Almost 1,300, but I think that’s a very
Piers Morgan: They weren’t all civilians, were they?
Jonathan: There were 700
Piers Morgan: Stop lying, Jonathan. You’re making a totally irrelevant comparison.
Based on your own figures, 38,000 civilians have been killed in Gaza. Of the 1,200 people killed on October 7, reports say 400 were military personnel and 800 were civilians.
So 38,000 civilians in Gaza have been killed in response to the murder of 800 civilians. That’s why many people view the IDF’s response as disproportionate.
Jonathan: That’s absolutely nonsense, Piers! You know what’s nonsense? Comparing civilian deaths without considering where the IDF was fighting, where Hamas was hiding, and who they were using as human shields.
Piers Morgan Challenges Israel’s Gaza Death Toll Figures — Then Accuses Jonathan of Lying
Piers Morgan: If the Gaza Health Ministry’s numbers are wrong, how many people have been killed?
Jonathan: Based on information I’ve corroborated from Israeli sources, Hamas sources, and open-source intelligence, the IDF assesses
Piers Morgan: Oh, you’re gathering information from Hamas sources. You do trust them, after all.
Jonathan: Yeah.
Piers Morgan: When they issue obituaries or pay stipends to widows, I’m sure you’ll take that into account.
So, according to you, Jonathan, how many people have been killed in Gaza since the war started?
Jonathan: Based on the different sources of information, around 38,000 or 39,000 people who were probably not combatants. That’s my understanding, based on insufficient
Piers Morgan: And at least 25,000 terrorists, according to the IDF, with a high level of certainty. So your total is about 63,000?
Jonathan: Roughly.
Piers Morgan: That’s around 12,000 fewer than the official Gaza Health Ministry figures. You’re also not factoring in natural deaths or deaths caused by Hamas.
Let’s take your figure: 38,000 civilians killed. How many civilians were killed on October 7?
Jonathan: Almost 1,300, but I think that’s a very
Piers Morgan: They weren’t all civilians, were they?
Jonathan: There were 700
Piers Morgan: Stop lying, Jonathan. You’re making a totally irrelevant comparison.
Based on your own figures, 38,000 civilians have been killed in Gaza. Of the 1,200 people killed on October 7, reports say 400 were military personnel and 800 were civilians.
So 38,000 civilians in Gaza have been killed in response to the murder of 800 civilians. That’s why many people view the IDF’s response as disproportionate.
Jonathan: That’s absolutely nonsense, Piers! You know what’s nonsense? Comparing civilian deaths without considering where the IDF was fighting, where Hamas was hiding, and who they were using as human shields.





