Replying to @DeFiMinty
But the thrill of finding an edge with 8+ sharpe before it fullly decays is a feeling like no other
Shorting new listings: a 1.46 Sharpe strategy on Binance
$100k to $362k since Jan 2024, after fees and funding, hedged with BTC.
New coins tend to top about a week after listing. Within two months they typically bleed to a low, where they often chop around for a while. You can build a strategy around exactly that, automated or by hand.
The rules, per coin:
Day 0-4: nothing, wait
Day 5-9: scale into the short (0 -> 100%)
Day 10-29: hold the full short
Day 30-59: scale out (100% -> 0)
Day 60+: done, ignore the coin
The problem is the occasional shitcoin that rips 100000%. So there’s a stop: record the price on day 7. If it ever moves 60% from that price, close the position and never trade that coin again.
BTC long hedge = sum of all short weights. This way you’re always dollar-neutral. You can also run a different ratio, or size by volatility. Longing other alts works too.
Binance listings: 423 coins, delisted ones included, about 15 shorts open on average.
Sharpe 1.46, max drawdown -29%. It works on Hyperliquid too, but noticeably better on Binance, which makes sense since they list far more shitcoins.
The catch is capacity. You can’t push millions into these coins, which mostly hurts big players.
Replying to @FPX500
Wait until you find out that "liquidity" or LRLR/DOL is completely bullshit...
Replying to @fredtrades @grok
I tested all of his concepts if they have any predictive power
Replying to @dima_quant
This kind of effect also exists on just shorting Binance new listings. I'll do a post about it tomorrow of my research on it.
Replying to @ScottPh77711570 @onlybreakouts
There’s too many accounts like these and they won’t stop.
People who know nothing too are buying their courses and they won’t stop posting because of that.
Replying to @rpxtrades
This was me a while back. I tested everything, even the concepts themselves, and found zero predictive power. You can’t find an edge by combining things that don’t have one in the first place. You’ll only overfit.
Let me help you quit:
xitter.cf/hyperfitted/status/210…
Day trading doesn't work. At least not the version that gets pushed on social media.
Look at my banner. Thousands of traders flipping coins with zero edge. After a year, take the top 1%. They look like they've cracked the market, so they start posting, selling courses, running mentorships. In reality they just got lucky. The other 99% never post anything.
The worst part is the main message that gets pushed: it takes years and years to finally crack it. Just keep believing. So you keep buying evals, keep trying, keep paying subscriptions. That sentence isn't there to help you. It's there to keep you paying.
And it gets you hooked. It's an addiction. A random win now and then feels like proof you know what you're doing, every loss makes you think you did something wrong, and the next setup always looks like the one. Once you're in, getting out is almost impossible.
And the concepts themselves are BS. With ICT you can open any chart and explain every move after the fact. Liquidity got swept, CISD/BOS, price ran to the draw. In hindsight it all looks obvious.
Live, it's the same trap. When you win a clean trade, it feels like the concepts worked perfectly. When you lose, you always find something to blame: you missed this, that wasn't aligned, the HTF wasn't confirmed...
"The concept is never the problem. It's always you."
So I tested it. LRLR with an HTF DOL sweep, LTF sweep, CISD/BOS/IFVG entry. Perfected the rules so it would take the exact trades I would take live. Some trades worked perfectly. Some went straight to SL. Overall it was a coin flip with zero predictive power.
The clean ones are the screenshots you see. The ones that failed completely never get posted. Same in every mentorship: the top students post their wins and payouts, the losing ones stay quiet (my banner again). And with all that subscription money, a mentor can buy enough evals that one of them is basically guaranteed to pay out.
And if you keep losing money, they tell you trading is 90% psychology. It's you vs you. It's not. It's 100% strategy, and it's not you vs you. On the other side are billion-dollar institutions doing everything they can to keep price as precise and efficient as possible. No amount of discipline fixes a strategy with no edge.
I'm an ex day trader. I got a few payouts myself, and I can't honestly say they were more than luck. Since then I've tested many, many other concepts and features. Not one of them gave me a reliable edge.
Test any of it over thousands of trades and you'll see the same thing. Zero predictive power.
You're not going to beat one of the most efficient, liquid markets on earth by drawing boxes and lines on a chart.
So what does work?
Trading less liquid, less efficient markets. Finding an edge there is astronomically easier. Or taking a systematic approach to prop firms and using their payoff structure to make a profit.
Both come from testing and math.
But don't get me wrong. Sponsorships, mentorship money, YouTube ad revenue, referral links for evals... those all pay very well.
Combine that with young people who believe they're going to change their life, and a system built to keep them hooked and paying for years, and you've got the perfect business...
If a strategy only passes when the test is easy, it hasn’t passed.
Most of you split your data the same way. First two thirds in-sample (IS), last third out-of-sample (OOS).
Then you check the IC, fwd return deciles, the Sharpe...
If the OOS numbers hold up, the strategy is "validated."
Here's how that goes wrong.
Hardly anyone checks what the market was actually doing in each part.
Say the first two thirds holds the crash, the chop and the slow bleed. The last third is one clean bull run.
You optimize on the hard part. Every parameter tweak that dodges a bad stretch pushes the IS Sharpe up. By the end, the model is great at surviving that one crash and that one chop.
Then it reaches the OOS. A bull run, where almost anything that's long makes money. It passes.
But the test never asked the real question: does this work in a hard market it wasn't tuned on? Every hard market went into the tuning. Only the easy one was left for the grade.
Before you look at a single metric, look at the chart:
- What regimes are in your IS?
- What regimes are in your OOS?
If your OOS is one easy market, the test was decided before you ran it.
Put it over a stretch that actually hurts, and let the IS take both ends.
An out-of-sample test is only as hard as the market you put in it.
Replying to @kunoo
Pisses me off how poeple think they manipulate the market to stop out your order on a sim account...
Market makers just keep buy and sell orders near the current price at all times and profit off the spread. They are on the other side of the trade when you use a market order.
Replying to @TheH0n3stTrader
Because the problem is that you're even trading in the first place...
*daytrading to be specific
Replying to @cottonxbt
Who even trades memecoins anyways? There are a lot more not so efficient markets still out there
Replying to @santifxz
I'd be down to backtest your strategy on years of data systematically. If you really think it has an edge, let me prove it. Feel free to dm if you're down.
I'm giving my last shot at daytrading strategies before I let them go forever
Replying to @algojan
1. OOS regime vs IS regime
2. params: stable plateau on the heatmap or a lone peak?
3. how many variants were tried
4. IC + fwd returns by signal decile
5. any nonlinear transform: economic reason upfront, or fit to the decile chart?
6. results net of costs
Replying to @art_xbt
Just make sure you clasify "actionable" correctly, because out of 200 at least few can pass the OOS just by chance
Replying to @SystemicStratHL
It looks much worse on hyperliquid haha. I've recently too had a drawdown on my xs neutral portfolio but not as bad as this one...




