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When will GB electricity prices fall?
I asked ChatGPT at what percentage of gas generation GB power prices start to drop and when that happens. The answer is from 2028.
Gas still sets UK power prices most of the time even though it was only about 26.8 percent of generation in 2025. That keeps bills tied to volatile fossil markets. The shift comes when gas falls into the 10 to 15 percent backup range and when renewables and storage begin to set the marginal price instead.
Wind rises from 28 percent in 2023 to about 52 percent by 2030. Storage grows from 7 GWh in 2023 to about 100 GWh by 2030 which is about 12 percent of daily demand. Gas falls from 33 percent to about 8 percent by 2030 and then drops to about 5 percent by 2032. At that point gas no longer drives wholesale prices.
Projects like Thurrock which combines a 300 MW 600 MWh battery with 450 MW of flexible engines show the direction of travel. Clean. Reliable. Flexible.
Wind is now the UK’s cheapest new power. With storage it will undercut gas entirely. Ninety five percent clean power by 2030 is credible. It is practical. It is affordable. It is already underway.
The blue band in the chart marks the point where gas falls below the level that sets prices which is when GB electricity prices will start to decline.
#NetZero #Climate #Energy #EV #HeatPump #BESS #CleanPower #OffshoreWind #UKEnergy
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Solar has overtaken nuclear. A decade ago it supplied 1% of the world's power. In 2025 it met three quarters of global demand growth.
Almost nobody saw it coming. I spoke to Jocelyn Timperley at BBC Future about why.
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BYD launches the new Seagull with 5-minute Flash Charging, starting under $10,000 electrek.co/2026/10/20/byd-l… by @EVPeteJohnson
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Mercedes' new GLC 400 EV crushes range estimates, driving nearly 400 miles electrek.co/2026/10/20/merce… by @EVPeteJohnson
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Construction Carnaval: electric equipment comes to Brazil with SDLG electrek.co/2026/10/21/const… by @volvojo1
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Fortescue is using KUKA welding robots to handle 6 MW charging cables [video] electrek.co/2026/10/22/forte… by @volvojo1
Something James Dyson was unable to do 7 years ago. ⬇️
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Africa is on track to install a RECORD 17 GW of solar capacity in 2026, a 45% increase from the year before ☀️📈
Ensuring grid financing at #COP31 could turn this solar boom into wider access to electricity across the region 🌍
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ANALYSIS: Solar & Storage Growth Drives Down Summer Wholesale Electricity Prices by 42% in Texas, 51% in California…
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Look at this exchange. This is the sort of behaviour we’re dealing with: demand evidence, dismiss what’s provided, then deliver a parting shot and block any further reply.
It’s difficult to believe this is a good-faith search for the truth when the conversation ends by preventing the other person from answering.
Whatever the intention, the effect is the same: sow doubt about climate science and provide cover for continued, unrestricted fossil fuel use, regardless of the consequences.
Blocking someone may secure the last word. It doesn’t make that word correct.
#badfaith #climatebrawl #climate #NetZero
#Truth
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Thanks for the write up.
Agree with your comments.
Worth starting with why I like the episode: we’ve done lots on how batteries work etc. All positive growth stories. But this gas transition will be difficult and if we get it wrong, have unnecessarily large costs for consumers and in the worst case, have that cost raised from power prices and slow down the transition (a consultation being looked at).
Running through your list
1) yes agree, the main point here is the cost & that was in the episode. If the cost never gets low enough then the engineering of whether it is possible is irrelevant (or should be).
2) interestingly this was accepted. Seems they are mostly pushing for hydrogen clusters on industrial sites, and this is more logical. That’s a big change.
3) I’m not sold on hybrid boilers in homes, that’s too much CAPEX for very little use. But in an industrial setting it could be very useful to have power demand off for a few weeks. I expect that type of demand reduction would be paid for by the system operator. Check out the episode with Energynest on thermal storage where we discuss this.
4) exactly. This has the potential to be poorly managed and if we’re not think about cul-de-sac examples of taking out sections of the grid we’re going to pay too much for this. Interesting that regulation blocks this today.
5) yes, I expect nationalisation will be considered. The other angle I could see is to combine gas and power network owners, so the swapping of one for the other doesn’t cause a managed decline of one company.
Bonus 6) I should have talked about primary energy too.
Appreciate your comments, I’m keen to go back to these harder topics in future episodes.
I felt uncomfortable watching @ModoEnergy’s podcast on the future of Britain’s gas network with Cadent’s Director of Energy System Operations.
The engineering discussion was interesting. Ed’s questions were thoughtful, and the conversation remained polite. But I sensed a tension between exploring the network’s future and defending its continued relevance.
At times, it felt like an industry in denial about the scale of change ahead.
1. Hydrogen blending needed much more scrutiny.
A 20% hydrogen blend is 20% by VOLUME, not energy. Because hydrogen contains much less energy per cubic metre than natural gas, it supplies only around 7% of the blend’s energy.
The reduction in direct CO₂ emissions for equivalent heating is therefore only around 7–8%, before accounting for hydrogen production and other lifecycle impacts.
That distinction was missing from the discussion. Blending cannot deliver anything approaching the decarbonisation domestic heating requires.
2. Hydrogen for home heating remains deeply unconvincing.
Using renewable electricity to manufacture hydrogen, process and transport it, then burn it in a boiler requires several times more electricity than delivering the same heat through a heat pump.
The Climate Change Committee excludes hydrogen boilers and hydrogen–heat-pump hybrids from its Balanced Pathway.
Hydrogen has more credible uses in industrial clusters, particularly where it is required as a feedstock or where direct electrification is difficult. That was the more convincing direction discussed.
3. Retaining gas boilers is not the only way to manage demand peaks.
Hybrid heat pumps can reduce peak electricity demand by switching to a boiler during cold weather. But the alternatives deserve equal attention.
Domestic batteries, thermal storage, insulation, modest preheating and smart controls can all help. Where comfortable and appropriate, temporarily reducing the thermostat by a degree or two can also lower demand during a critical period.
My own battery normally powers my house, including the heat pump, from 17:30 to 23:30. Cold spells can shorten that window, but it still substantially reduces peak grid imports while saving money on my electricity bill.
Keeping a second heating appliance and gas connection for occasional peaks needs a convincing whole-system economic case. It should not simply be assumed to be the sensible solution.
4. Twenty-four years is not a distant future for infrastructure planning.
The UK’s legally binding net zero deadline is 2050. The CCC’s pathway envisages fully decarbonised home heating by then, without domestic gas boilers.
Yet replacement pipes were discussed as assets lasting 80–100 years. Their physical lifespan does not establish an economic need for them throughout that period.
The explanation that gas networks cannot shrink neatly as individual households disconnect makes coordinated transition planning more urgent.
How will declining demand be managed? Who pays for decommissioning? How do we prevent rising costs falling onto fewer remaining customers?
5. Perhaps ownership needs to be part of that discussion.
A privately owned network has a commercial incentive to preserve its revenue base. That can conflict with an orderly retirement of infrastructure that households no longer need.
Public ownership, with an explicit remit to manage the transition and protect customers and workers, deserves consideration alongside stronger regulation. Acquisition and decommissioning costs would need transparent scrutiny.
What left me uncomfortable was hearing so much about ways to preserve the network’s role, and too little about planning for its decline.
An affordable transition should be the objective. Keeping the existing business model alive should not be.
Episode:
modoenergy.com/transmission-…
Climate Change Committee:
theccc.org.uk/publication/th…
#HeatPumps #Hydrogen #NetZero #ClimateChange
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I felt uncomfortable watching @ModoEnergy’s podcast on the future of Britain’s gas network with Cadent’s Director of Energy System Operations.
The engineering discussion was interesting. Ed’s questions were thoughtful, and the conversation remained polite. But I sensed a tension between exploring the network’s future and defending its continued relevance.
At times, it felt like an industry in denial about the scale of change ahead.
1. Hydrogen blending needed much more scrutiny.
A 20% hydrogen blend is 20% by VOLUME, not energy. Because hydrogen contains much less energy per cubic metre than natural gas, it supplies only around 7% of the blend’s energy.
The reduction in direct CO₂ emissions for equivalent heating is therefore only around 7–8%, before accounting for hydrogen production and other lifecycle impacts.
That distinction was missing from the discussion. Blending cannot deliver anything approaching the decarbonisation domestic heating requires.
2. Hydrogen for home heating remains deeply unconvincing.
Using renewable electricity to manufacture hydrogen, process and transport it, then burn it in a boiler requires several times more electricity than delivering the same heat through a heat pump.
The Climate Change Committee excludes hydrogen boilers and hydrogen–heat-pump hybrids from its Balanced Pathway.
Hydrogen has more credible uses in industrial clusters, particularly where it is required as a feedstock or where direct electrification is difficult. That was the more convincing direction discussed.
3. Retaining gas boilers is not the only way to manage demand peaks.
Hybrid heat pumps can reduce peak electricity demand by switching to a boiler during cold weather. But the alternatives deserve equal attention.
Domestic batteries, thermal storage, insulation, modest preheating and smart controls can all help. Where comfortable and appropriate, temporarily reducing the thermostat by a degree or two can also lower demand during a critical period.
My own battery normally powers my house, including the heat pump, from 17:30 to 23:30. Cold spells can shorten that window, but it still substantially reduces peak grid imports while saving money on my electricity bill.
Keeping a second heating appliance and gas connection for occasional peaks needs a convincing whole-system economic case. It should not simply be assumed to be the sensible solution.
4. Twenty-four years is not a distant future for infrastructure planning.
The UK’s legally binding net zero deadline is 2050. The CCC’s pathway envisages fully decarbonised home heating by then, without domestic gas boilers.
Yet replacement pipes were discussed as assets lasting 80–100 years. Their physical lifespan does not establish an economic need for them throughout that period.
The explanation that gas networks cannot shrink neatly as individual households disconnect makes coordinated transition planning more urgent.
How will declining demand be managed? Who pays for decommissioning? How do we prevent rising costs falling onto fewer remaining customers?
5. Perhaps ownership needs to be part of that discussion.
A privately owned network has a commercial incentive to preserve its revenue base. That can conflict with an orderly retirement of infrastructure that households no longer need.
Public ownership, with an explicit remit to manage the transition and protect customers and workers, deserves consideration alongside stronger regulation. Acquisition and decommissioning costs would need transparent scrutiny.
What left me uncomfortable was hearing so much about ways to preserve the network’s role, and too little about planning for its decline.
An affordable transition should be the objective. Keeping the existing business model alive should not be.
Episode:
modoenergy.com/transmission-…
Climate Change Committee:
theccc.org.uk/publication/th…
#HeatPumps #Hydrogen #NetZero #ClimateChange
I felt uncomfortable watching @ModoEnergy’s podcast on the future of Britain’s gas network with Cadent’s Director of Energy System Operations.
The engineering discussion was interesting. Ed’s questions were thoughtful, and the conversation remained polite. But I sensed a tension between exploring the network’s future and defending its continued relevance.
At times, it felt like an industry in denial about the scale of change ahead.
1. Hydrogen blending needed much more scrutiny.
A 20% hydrogen blend is 20% by VOLUME, not energy. Because hydrogen contains much less energy per cubic metre than natural gas, it supplies only around 7% of the blend’s energy.
The reduction in direct CO₂ emissions for equivalent heating is therefore only around 7–8%, before accounting for hydrogen production and other lifecycle impacts.
That distinction was missing from the discussion. Blending cannot deliver anything approaching the decarbonisation domestic heating requires.
2. Hydrogen for home heating remains deeply unconvincing.
Using renewable electricity to manufacture hydrogen, process and transport it, then burn it in a boiler requires several times more electricity than delivering the same heat through a heat pump.
The Climate Change Committee excludes hydrogen boilers and hydrogen–heat-pump hybrids from its Balanced Pathway.
Hydrogen has more credible uses in industrial clusters, particularly where it is required as a feedstock or where direct electrification is difficult. That was the more convincing direction discussed.
3. Retaining gas boilers is not the only way to manage demand peaks.
Hybrid heat pumps can reduce peak electricity demand by switching to a boiler during cold weather. But the alternatives deserve equal attention.
Domestic batteries, thermal storage, insulation, modest preheating and smart controls can all help. Where comfortable and appropriate, temporarily reducing the thermostat by a degree or two can also lower demand during a critical period.
My own battery normally powers my house, including the heat pump, from 17:30 to 23:30. Cold spells can shorten that window, but it still substantially reduces peak grid imports while saving money on my electricity bill.
Keeping a second heating appliance and gas connection for occasional peaks needs a convincing whole-system economic case. It should not simply be assumed to be the sensible solution.
4. Twenty-four years is not a distant future for infrastructure planning.
The UK’s legally binding net zero deadline is 2050. The CCC’s pathway envisages fully decarbonised home heating by then, without domestic gas boilers.
Yet replacement pipes were discussed as assets lasting 80–100 years. Their physical lifespan does not establish an economic need for them throughout that period.
The explanation that gas networks cannot shrink neatly as individual households disconnect makes coordinated transition planning more urgent.
How will declining demand be managed? Who pays for decommissioning? How do we prevent rising costs falling onto fewer remaining customers?
5. Perhaps ownership needs to be part of that discussion.
A privately owned network has a commercial incentive to preserve its revenue base. That can conflict with an orderly retirement of infrastructure that households no longer need.
Public ownership, with an explicit remit to manage the transition and protect customers and workers, deserves consideration alongside stronger regulation. Acquisition and decommissioning costs would need transparent scrutiny.
What left me uncomfortable was hearing so much about ways to preserve the network’s role, and too little about planning for its decline.
An affordable transition should be the objective. Keeping the existing business model alive should not be.
Episode:
modoenergy.com/transmission-…
Climate Change Committee:
theccc.org.uk/publication/th…
#HeatPumps #Hydrogen #NetZero #ClimateChange
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If you want to hear from the Fidra team on the project: youtu.be/lh03TpFxoC8?si=vfaC…
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UK to decouple #gas and #power prices .
Under the current system, gas sets the wholesale electricity price whenever it is needed alongside #wind, #solar, and many #renewables generators are paid gas-linked prices.
observer.co.uk/news/national…
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Many of these "adaptors" go crazy, when they may not water their garden in a drought...
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MIND-BLOWING STATS: A record 2/3 of new cars in China are now electric, while combustion-car sales have fallen by 2/3 since they peaked in 2017
– In 2020, ~95% of sales were combustion-engine cars
– By Sep 2026, they crashed to 33%
– On the flip side, NEVs hit a record 67%
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