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My chat with @josh_pwrk the CTO of @DeriveXYZ is live!
We talked about how Derive got here, the challenges the team faced along the way and what users can expect from V3.
Huge thanks to the Derive team for bringing me out to SF for this 👏
A closer look at our thinking behind V3.
Our CTO @josh_pwrk sat down with @Nomaticcap to talk through how we got here, why we chose Ethereum and ZK, and where we think onchain finance is headed.
We've spent five years building onchain options and learning from the traders who use them. Josh shares the lessons behind V3 and why we want to make it easier for others to build alongside us.
Watch the full conversation below.
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A Zcash board member on the two years when the project was one bad quarter away from resizing the team.
“I joined the board end of 2023, so it’s almost three years now. We all agreed at the board level that this was the last shot. It was do or die.”
“Our treasury is comfortable now, but for most of the two years after that, depending on coin price, we’d have to resize the team and really think about what our future looks like.”
“So it’s been a long struggle to survive, but suddenly now you have new talent. You have a greater ability to fund different explorations, and you have a lot of interest from the market.”
“When the team left, we’re basically left with kind of a shell of an organization. And we did see it as our responsibility to properly steward… or point the organization towards its next phase.”
ft. @sudo_ml, @zmanian, @DeFi_Dad & @Nomaticcap
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His way to take profit on a token without ever selling the position: provide liquidity and sell the fees.
“I think the best way for me to sell a token is actually providing liquidity. Let’s say you’re bullish on Derive. If it doubles, the human mind will probably be like, well, it can double again.”
“What I prefer to do is provide liquidity, Uniswap v3 or v4, but really wide. Not full range. Normally people will do plus 100, minus 50. I’ll do plus 200, minus 66.”
“I will collect Derive and ETH over time, but then I can sell my Derive and I get a fee. I always keep my main position, but I sell the fee as kind of how I take profit.”
“If Derive goes 2x or 3x and now I’m fully out of Derive, at least it’s positively that I’m out. Now there’s a risk, again, if it’s going down the other way, you’re holding the bag. But that’s the best way for me to take profit.”
ft. @mbaril010 of @OctavFi, @DeFi_Dad & @Nomaticcap
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Andy (@andyyy) explains why Zcash could become the silver to Bitcoin's gold, arguing that it could grow into a $500 billion to $1 trillion asset as the digital store-of-value market expands.
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Very cool new collab!
@DeFi_Dad and @Nomaticcap joined by therollupco guys @andyyy and @robbieklages!
teapaw.org/DeFi_Dad/status/211880…
🎙️ New @Edge_Pod
🗳️📈 Could A "Hated Rally" Fuel Crypto’s Next Leg? What The Midterms and The Binance Hack Mean for Crypto
0:00 - Intro
1:31 - Why Robbie expects crypto to lead stocks
4:14 - AI headwinds + why Andy’s fully allocated
6:35 - Is crypto now bipartisan?
9:33 - Could crypto rise if equities stall?
12:02 - Why markets shook off the Binance hack
16:55 - Tokenization super-cycle + concentrated bets
27:11 - What you'd buy if you rebuilt your portfolio
33:25 - Betting on category winners
39:53 - Crypto equities, DATs, and great founders
48:11 - Liquid tokens vs private markets
51:16 - The end of the disbelief phase
56:20 - Closing
🙏 Thanks to @therollupco CoFounders @robbieklages and @andyyy for joining us!
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🎙️ New @Edge_Pod
🗳️📈 Could A "Hated Rally" Fuel Crypto’s Next Leg? What The Midterms and The Binance Hack Mean for Crypto
0:00 - Intro
1:31 - Why Robbie expects crypto to lead stocks
4:14 - AI headwinds + why Andy’s fully allocated
6:35 - Is crypto now bipartisan?
9:33 - Could crypto rise if equities stall?
12:02 - Why markets shook off the Binance hack
16:55 - Tokenization super-cycle + concentrated bets
27:11 - What you'd buy if you rebuilt your portfolio
33:25 - Betting on category winners
39:53 - Crypto equities, DATs, and great founders
48:11 - Liquid tokens vs private markets
51:16 - The end of the disbelief phase
56:20 - Closing
🙏 Thanks to @therollupco CoFounders @robbieklages and @andyyy for joining us!
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New @Edge_Pod!
Could a "hated rally" fuel crypto's next leg?
That’s Robbie’s thesis: prices can climb while sentiment for crypto stays hostile.
@robbieklages and @andyyy from @therollupco join us for reactions to the midterms and Binance hack, and how we’re all positioning.
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The best privacy isn’t private payments. It’s money at rest that nobody can tell apart.
“We have these shielded pools. The coins in those shielded pools can’t be distinguished from each other.”
“You see a Bitcoin, it’s attached to an address, you see all the addresses that have ever touched that. You have ETH on Ethereum, you see all the different addresses that are connected… just ordinarily holding the coins, everybody can see.”
“Everything that’s in the shielded pool is indistinguishable. That’s not a property that things like Monero have… Just hold your money in an encrypted pool is kind of not a system that anyone else has ever been able to pull off.”
“If you’re trying to make a payment, trying to use a DeFi protocol, the transfers are always gonna leak information. But if you moved your money into a shielded pool just to hold it there for years, there’s no information to leak.”
ft. @zmanian, @sudo_ml, @DeFi_Dad & @Nomaticcap
Big.
Elysium getting the cream of the crop.
Interesting.
Metric will support @Enter_Elysium privately from day 1.
Market makers will be able to deploy private pools with their own liquidity, bringing the Elysium community the best prices possible.
e/acc
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The “Bitcoin sweater guy” barely owns any Bitcoin. His store of value is ETH, and his reason is about community, not price.
“Even if I’m the Bitcoin sweater guy, I actually don’t own a lot of Bitcoin. The upside of Bitcoin is not as good as the upside of other liquid assets.”
“What makes the value of a company is its product and revenue. What makes the value of a token is its community. And I think the Bitcoin community became really toxic and did not really wanna evolve over time.”
“We’ve seen quantum stuff happening recently. Is the community that’s now leading Bitcoin ready to work on Bitcoin to make it quantum resistant? Do we need that? I don’t know.”
“I have an exposure to Ethereum because I see it as being the Internet, but I don’t see Ethereum at 30k. The Internet is not worth something. What’s built on it is worth a lot of money. So I see my store of value being Ethereum over time, more than Bitcoin.”
ft. @mbaril010 of @OctavFi, @DeFi_Dad & @Nomaticcap
RT @DeFi_Dad: Orbio = Tokenized inference markets + private inference
If you're looking into inference capital markets, AI credit, and pri…
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I'm sure these 7 day average numbers will change with today's bloodbath, but the Equity and RWA Basis is slowly ramping and looking promising on ethereum:0x57e114b691db790c35207b2e685d4a43181e6061.
Up to 18.6% 👀
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Today marks the second time in history the Nasdaq fell more than 5% and Bitcoin fell less than the Nasdaq.
The other time was on March 16, 2020.
Mar 16, 2020: QQQ -12.0%, BTC -10.6%
Nov 5, 2026: QQQ -6.4%, BTC -5.3%
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The S&P has been higher 12 months after all 19 midterms since 1950.
bitcoin:native was higher 12 months after each of the last three midterms, but its lows came weeks days after the vote.
Recorded this yesterday, the day after the midterms, with @andyyy and @robbieklages from @therollupco joining us for a special post-election @edge_pod on what to expect in crypto.
I think most of what we covered still stands but of course today was a punch in the gut. Anyways, hear why Andy's fully allocated (so are we) and stay tuned for the full pod shortly.
🙏 Check out our clip sponsor @AxisFDN, printing 15% APY for sUSDx holders the last 30 days.
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An AI audit found the worst kind of bug a zero-knowledge protocol can have. Zcash patched it before anyone knew.
“I did a bunch of AI-driven audits of different parts of the Zcash code. Basically, every time a new model comes out, run a standard set of queries across the Zcash codebase.”
“Opus 4 comes out from Anthropic, and then finds the worst… what is called, in the parlance of zero-knowledge, a soundness vulnerability.”
“It’s a very benign-sounding term for basically the worst possible vulnerability you could have in a zero-knowledge proof protocol, which is you can forge a proof, and therefore you can create money from nothing.”
“So it got patched fairly quietly, and then after it was patched, Zooko wrote a blog post… this is what this vulnerability meant and how bad it could have been.”
ft. @zmanian, @sudo_ml, @DeFi_Dad & @Nomaticcap
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He moved ~$300k into Uniswap pools on Robinhood Chain the week tokenized stocks launched. Two weeks later: ~$75–80k in fees.
“I love Uniswap LP. That’s where I make a lot of my money. And I was like, okay, is there any stock on Uniswap right now? And it just launched. I think it was the first week or even the first day.”
“We moved a lot of our capital into Uniswap, providing liquidity to NVIDIA and Tesla and S&P 500, all of the tokens that we could see some volume on. We opened pools at, like, 3, 4, 5%, because we’re the first one.”
“We knew it was, like, 1, 2 weeks. We moved something close to 300k. We did something about 75 or 80k in, like, 2 weeks.”
“When we created the pool at 3%, some people came and said, well, why 3? If I put 1, I’ll be more capital efficient. And slowly over time we saw our return going down really quickly, which was expected. And so we removed all of that from Uniswap.”
ft. @mbaril010 of @OctavFi, @DeFi_Dad & @Nomaticcap
Why is $FLUID trading like @koolkrypto223 started TWAP'ing 👀
Sub 5min read to get fully ready for @mezzanine_fi launch tomorrow 🫡
I'm an investor in Mezzanine and excited to see it go live!
KPK are at the top of their class amongst curators.
Their automation and risk parameters now have many provable onchain instances of protecting user capital.
Also, did you know they're constantly running red team operations internally on each other to harden emergency protocols?
They've set the curator bar high and glad to have them powering @edge_pod 🫡
Security is hard to prove in advance.
When the largest crypto hack hit @binance last week, KPK’s automation stack fired exit transactions seconds after its @HypernativeLabs alerts triggered
Deep dive into what happened and how KPK compared with other curators




















