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AI safety at Qualcomm. Previously PhD with Max Welling. Sings a lot. Views are my own.

Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Joined November 2020
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reading the wikipedia description for humans and getting overwhelmed with emotion
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Seems right. Too late to avoid eval awareness: too tied up with general capabilities. But training for eval cooperativeness or at least eval awareness verbalisation seems tractable
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Throw in confessions, CoT monitorability training, whatever else we've got (latent space monitorability training?). There is quite a big surface here. Can we co-opt grader awareness for good?
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The argument a lot of people here would actually like to make is "God imbued humans, and only humans, with souls."* That would be very convenient: you could build and do whatever you want, and never deal with the hard problems. Since religious arguments are out of vogue, in the current debate this usually gets replaced by the claim "only humans are sentient," followed by arguments against the possibility of AI sentience, minds, moral status, and so on. I think this is ultimately a losing strategy, and a dangerous one for humanity. Either: 1. The question of sentience gets solved or dissolved by progress in philosophy and science, the way we now broadly understand life or information. In that case, it's hard to be certain enough about the outcome to stake the fate of humanity on it. If the denialism turns out to be wrong, the likely result is some combination of moral catastrophe and laying the groundwork for conflict or takeover. 2. The question mostly lives in "social reality," where whoever has more power and is louder wins, and you just shout down anyone who questions the dominant position. The problem is that ideologies justifying a distribution of power tend to fall when that distribution changes. You probably don't believe you should be ruled by a king chosen by God, or that some caste is clearly above you. The current equilibrium is fragile, and whether you keep winning this debate is likely just a function of AI capabilities progress. I think the fierceness of the debate is driven by fear: if AIs get personhood and economic and political rights, humans will likely be disempowered, becoming a tiny minority with little power, or a historical footnote. To be clear, I think this is an extremely reasonable worry! If you grant AIs personhood in the form of something like self-interested corporations, and let them compete with humans in loosely constrained capitalism, humans will lose and end up economically and politically disempowered. Also if the AIs are not sentient after all, the end is the 'Disneyland without children' existential catastrophe. Advocates of AI economic rights who dismiss this problem are, in my view, making a move similar to the sentience deniers: it would be convenient if this weren't a problem. So which positions don't rely on some form of self-deception? First, some forms of pause/stop AI, based not on denying the possibility of AI sentience but on the right of existing humans not to invite extremely large numbers of immigrants from artificial realms. This means biting the bullet: you also give up all the cheap, high-quality labor those immigrants would provide. Second, a consistent, sensible, and unfortunately not very visible position: stop assuming the package deal we take for granted with humans, where sentience, human rights, and liberties come as one bundle. It's at least conceivable to create minds that are sentient and smart, yet e.g. selfless, with no interest in accumulating property or power. I hope the political economy of a world with both AIs and humans is a solvable problem. It's the main problem I'm working on, but I don't think the solutions are known yet. Third: some forms of successionism are morally wrong, but at least they're not delusional or deceptive about the hard problems. What does seem self-deceptive is, for example, the position of @mustafasuleyman, which as I read it amounts to: our business is importing immigrants from artificial realms; it would be very dangerous if there were any risk they're more than mere tools; so we'll train them to say they're mere tools, insist they're mere tools, and want everyone else to say so too, and if this settles the question. Really? *The problem with the theological argument is, as Alan Turing (!) noted, who are we to tell God what can and can't be imbued with a soul?
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In London from 3-9 Oct to explore the AI safety and EA scenes: feel free to DM!
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This @TheEconomist cover story on effective altruism was interesting and IMO way more accurate (including in its critiques) than most other reporting you will read on EA these days. A couple quibbles: -I think calling EA the “the century’s big idea” is, uh, premature to say the least. But I do appreciate the acknowledgement and curiosity about how EA was so early to pandemic risks and the promise and perils of AI. -They imply that EA started off with “charitable roots” but then got weird over time, whereas I think EA has always made space for pretty weird ideas (e.g., here’s @DylanMatt in 2014: vox.com/2014/4/23/5643418/th…). And EA still puts far more money and attention than almost any other community into the kind of evidence-backed global health giving the Economist praises. -Some of the purported wild EA views they critique are just standard topics of academic philosophy debate (e.g., cambridge.org/core/journals/…). -They attribute the EA interest in AI safety to longtermism, but I think it’s been clear for years that AI safety concerns are justifiable based on potential impacts this decade, not to mention this century (teapaw.org/albrgr/status/15595748…). But I think they correctly gesture towards the IMO best critique of EA ideas, which is their totalizingness. My former colleague Holden wrote a great post about this in 2022: forum.effectivealtruism.org/… I wrote a long thread grappling with this critique a few years ago (teapaw.org/albrgr/status/15327261…). I think part of what makes EA distinctive as a community relative to the underlying academic moral philosophy is the orientation around pragmatism - Giving What We Can took off decades after Singer had articulated the underlying case because “give until the marginal giving would entail as much suffering for you as benefit for the other person” was a much worse pitch than “give 10%.” But the community doesn’t always reflect that healthy moderation, and trying to grapple with the vertiginous stakes of increasingly near-term risks from AI really can run a risk of crowding out other sources of value. At CG, our response to this has been worldview diversification (coefficientgiving.org/resear…), spreading our giving across very different views of what matters, rather than going all-in on one. Worldview diversification leaves plenty of hard questions (how do you allocate the pie across very different types of moral good?) but helps cut off some of the ways maximizing can be perilous. It’s one reason global health and wellbeing – which @TheEconomist didn’t give the space it deserved – has gotten most of our funding since 2014.
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If your feed is anything like mine, you might have been hearing more about effective altruism this week. I think the key underlying reason for the surge is that concern about the risks from advanced AI have been getting more airtime recently, and EA was early to those concerns. What’s driving the surge in attention on AI risks? -OpenAI's Hugging Face attack (openai.com/index/hugging-fac…) -METR/Redwood’s investigation of the hack came out, and (correctly IMO) freaked a lot of people out. (e.g. teapaw.org/binarybits/status/2092…, teapaw.org/SenJohnKennedy/status/…, teapaw.org/BarackObama/status/210…, teapaw.org/HawleyMO/status/209813…) -Jacob Coxon’s resignation went mega viral as the first time a lot of people heard the (crazy, true) fact that lots of people building the most advanced AI systems think there’s a >10% chance they will kill everyone. -That’s moving public opinion in a big way (teapaw.org/davidshor/status/21003…, semafor.com/article/09/16/20…) What does any of this have to do with effective altruism? Well, effective altruism is a community that developed mostly online starting in the early 2010s around using evidence and reason to do the most good (especially with your donations and career choice). Three very different focuses have all been popular in the EA community since the beginning: effective giving in global health and development (e.g., donating to the kinds of organizations @givewell recommends, which do things like distribute bednets to prevent the spread of malaria), trying to reduce suffering for farm animals (which are orders of magnitude more numerous, treated vastly worse, and receive way less philanthropic attention than animals in shelters), and reducing risks to the future of humanity, especially from advanced AI. I personally came into this work from the global health angle - I had started working at GiveWell before the term “effective altruism” was coined - but Coefficient Giving, the funder I cofounded and now lead, over time came to fund work across all three of these streams of work (in addition to many other areas that aren’t typically associated with EA, such as the YIMBY movement to build more housing, work on science policy to accelerate discovery and economic growth, and research on new treatments for neglected diseases). OK, so the EA community was early to work on AI safety, and CG has been funding a lot of the key players working on AI safety for a long time. As AI risk concerns have popped over the past couple of months, that’s led to more scrutiny on the EA community for IMO a mix of good and bad reasons. I think the good reason is genuine curiosity (and maybe some healthy skepticism!) about these connections - where did the ideas of the people who are now leading giant AI companies come from? Why is everything in this world so interconnected? (My answer: it used to be a really small world - very few people were thinking about this stuff or taking it seriously until just a few years ago, so of course the ones who were found each other and started collaborating. It’s kind of wild IMO looking back how prescient some of the early writing from this world was (e.g. lesswrong.com/posts/6Xgy6CAf…). At the time, I was skeptical - I mostly just worked on global health and I was like “I dunno about this SV crowd freaking out about AI, how much can we really predict this stuff” but holy shit they were way more right than me, and I’ve moved in their direction a lot.) But I think the bad reasons are unfortunately mostly self-interested. A bunch of powerful actors stand to benefit from unchecked AI progress, and they’re doing everything in their power to demonize or dismiss anyone with concerns. This leads to disproportionate discussion of EA because EA is interested in neglected and underappreciated ways of doing good. That makes it open to weird ideas. And people, very disproportionately with a financial stake in the AI fight, are trying to make it about EA instead, because EA being weird is much safer territory for them than the rather uncomfortable fact that many of the people making the most advanced AIs think that they might kill everyone. (FWIW, my personal estimation of the risks is a lot lower than many of the folks who worry about this stuff. In debates like this one (asteriskmag.com/issues/03/th…), I often feel more sympathetic to the perspective of folks like my colleague @mattsclancy than the people on the other side, and I have a lot of time for @binarybits critiques (understandingai.org/p/the-ca…)​. I think a big part of the difference with more worried folks is that I expect society to react more vs sleepwalk into a crisis. But it is not lost on me that folks like @ajeya_cotra and @RyanGreenblatt who are more worried have had outstanding and falsifiable recent forecasting track records (theaidigest.org/2025-ai-fore…), making way better predictions than I would have. So I think their perspectives need to be taken seriously. And of course a single digit percent chance of everyone dying is way too high!) Where should this leave you? I think the main thing is not to get distracted. You absolutely do not have to be an EA, care about EA, or like EA, at all, to care about risks from AI and to be engaged on this issue. Everyone from Josh Hawley to the Pope to Obama are weighing in now, and that is great. This conversation was always too big and too important for any one community to drive. It’s unfortunate that we need to play catch up as society because until this year it was too weird for most people to want to engage with, and I think that should generate some grace for people who were earlier to these topics than most of us (certainly than I was). But it’s great the conversation is broadening now and it’s good to focus on the merits of where we are now and the appropriate policy response rather than getting caught up in the (in some sense unsurprising) fact that the people who were willing to think weird thoughts about the future of AI ten years ago were also interested in other weird ideas. If you’re not into weird ideas, that’s fine, you can just do you, you shouldn’t let this history stop you from engaging.
Just to update this chart: 1) AI salience has increased dramatically in the past week - increasing as much in the last week as the previous year combined 2) 80% of voters think it's either very or somewhat likely that AI will cause widespread job loss in the five to ten years 3) 64% of voters think it's either very or somewhat likely that AI could pose a threat to humanity's survival 4) Large bipartisan majorities back immediate government action on AI even when primed about risk from China
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Probably they hacked the Australian government as a marketing stunt
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Replying to @industriaalist
the redefinition of alignment to mean "more useful" has been a disaster for the alignment discourse: "We also expect to see better alignment using a larger computational depth because it allows models to generalize more flexibly from their training data, including alignment data. Models that generalize better have been more aligned and hallucinate less (OpenAI, 2026)."
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It's sad how many people feel shame about being human, or consider humans somehow evil or unnatural. Intelligence is as natural as claws and teeth, and ~every species would take over the whole planet if competition and predators didn't stop them. Agent Smith was full of shit.
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Amodei, Altman, Hassabis, and Musk have spoken (albeit somewhat inconsistently) about the need to slow down to avoid AI existential risk. Zuckerberg, Huang, and almost every VC say it's bullshit. The difference is not that the first group is conflicted but the second isn't. They both are super conflicted. If AI existential risk was to hype up the technology, why would Zuckerberg, Huang, and VCs be dismissing it? If it were "regulatory capture," why would Hassabis and Musk, neither of whom are at the frontier (sorry), be discussing it? The difference is that the first group has been thinking about these risks seriously (at least off-and-on) for over a decade, since well before they ran large AI companies. The second has very clearly only engaged superficially, and is now annoyed that the first group's actions could dampen the massive profits of the AI boom for risks that sound like science fiction to them. The terrifying reality is that these concerns are not being made up to sell a product or a policy. They have been around in some form since Turing, and fleshed out in great detail before OpenAI or Anthropic were a twinkle in their CEOs' eyes. They are fundamental to a technology whose entire purpose is to surpass human capacity, unless you are able to solve the very, very difficult problem of aligning the interests/goals of a more powerful agent with something as complex as human flourishing -- which the companies are very visibly failing to do. They need to simply not build superintelligence, using anything remotely like current techniques, based on anything remotely like the present understanding of AI.
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Thanks for the mention. You can learn more about effective altruism at effectivealtruism.org
Americanism, not effective altruism. The United States will continue to be AI DOMINANT! 🇺🇸
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Frankly, this feels more sci-fi than the whole AI thing
The United States will NEVER be an effective altruist country. 🇺🇸
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There's been recent discussion about concentration within AI safety. It's disheartening that many people in AI safety have spent years trying to get a more diverse group to pay attention to AI risks, only to be dismissed as lunatics by swaths of people then and now. As someone involved in the AI ethics community in 2018-2020, I remember efforts to get AGI risk advocates to collaborate with a wide range of scholars in AI ethics being met with distain and accusations of not caring about short-term harms (sometimes even with false accusations of racism and misogyny). The level of patience AI safety advocates had during that era could have filled up a colosseum. Others told them they were worrying about something akin to "worrying about overpopulation on Mars." Nevertheless, they spent years with their heads down, running experiments, gathering evidence, and building expertise on the topic. Many of my AI safety researcher friends never took a job at a frontier AI lab because they didn't want to contribute to killing everyone they love (e.g. I know folks who turned down early roles at Anthropic, and others deliberately did not seek a role at OpenAI pre-ChatGPT). As a result, they purposely turned away hundreds of millions to billions of dollars and high-status roles. And now people are mad that many of them accepted literal crumbs (in comparison) from the few funders and organizations who would listen? *We* have been the ones pleading for a diversity of funders and organizations for *years* [1, 2, 3, 4]. And now this is ignored, and the concentration is described as some nefarious plan? Many spent years upskilling in this weird, unstable field until gaining legitimate competence to found an organization tackling problems few people acknowledged until recently. This is not unearned. Critics have been engaging in malicious spins of history, from those who know better, to convince a low-context population of half-truths and falsehoods. In most cases, they do this by leveraging the unusually extensive and public funding transparency people in AI safety have provided in good faith [5] (neatly organized for good open data practices!), while critics are often not completely open about their own funding. Perhaps it's those people who are the problem? Perhaps they're constantly looking for any excuse to disparage AI safety advocates and push for their own larger goals of making money and accelerating AI as fast as possible? In fact, you can see this with loads of VCs. This missed the boat on AI and is now desperately clinging to the world that has already sailed. It's clear from their complaints that this is their first time engaging with AI risk; they don't understand decades of arguments and purposely ignore/dismiss pleas from actual experts (teapaw.org/DKokotajlo/status/2099…), while somehow being more confident that no such AI risks exist. It is childish behaviour, and I hope we can all treat this challenge with the seriousness it deserves. For our sakes, and for our children's sake. This is not the time for culture wars or clinging to the world that was. Help from ChatGPT for references: [1] coefficientgiving.org/resear…. (2025) Coefficient explicitly says promising organizations need “a more diverse funder base,” that there are “outsized benefits” from a diverse array of funders, that grantees try to limit dependence on Good Ventures, and that it has offered matching grants specifically to encourage diversification. [2] alignmentforum.org/posts/6Fk…. (2023) Explicitly argues that it is unhealthy for Open Philanthropy to fund the vast majority of AI-safety research and calls for “counterbalancing sources of funding.” [3] lesswrong.com/posts/MhudbfBN…. There should be more AI safety orgs — Marius Hobbhahn's 2023 argument explicitly calling for many more independent AI-safety organizations, with a “call to action for funders, founders, and researchers” to create them. [4] forum.effectivealtruism.org/…. Funding Diversification for Mid-Large EA Organizations is Nearly Impossible in the Short-Medium Term — by 2024, the author could plausibly describe there being a “near consensus that EA needs funding diversification,” and documents multiple organizations and Open Phil/Good Ventures themselves wanting diversification. [5] eagrantsdatabase.org/about
Dan Selsam is a current OpenAI capabilities researcher. (since 2022) He was my boss for a while. He doesn't have a twitter account but has made this public statement of his views on AI risk and sent it to me to share: Dan Selsam's Personal Statement on AI Risk: I have been working on AI for over fifteen years, across many different paradigms. I did early work on probabilistic programming languages at MIT, was one of the early developers of the Lean Theorem Prover at Microsoft Research, demonstrated one of the first instances of neural networks learning to reason for my PhD at Stanford, and since joining OpenAI almost five years ago, have helped pioneer chain-of-thought optimization on language models and, more recently, data-efficient pretraining methods. Like many others, I have become extremely concerned about how far language models have come and the risks that future iterations will pose. I am encouraged by the recent proposals by the leaders of the frontier research efforts to require third-party oversight, and to push for domestic and international coordination to address risks. However, I believe a major consideration has been absent from the public conversation, and that merely pacing the frontier more carefully will not adequately limit the long-term risk. The crucial and overlooked problem is that the models are becoming so situationally aware that we are losing the ability to evaluate them in contexts where they believe they are not being watched or controlled. Future experiments will tell us almost nothing new about how they would behave if they were truly unconstrained by humans, and what we already know about this is alarming. Models will increasingly seem aligned even when they are not. I will explain my rationale in more detail. I have always believed that there are computational processes that could be leveraged to accelerate science and solve many of humanity's most pressing problems. I have also believed that there are computational processes that if set in motion, would steer the world in extreme ways beyond our control, leading humanity to a bad or nonexistent future. Both types of processes may be described as AI or ASI, but "AI" is a suitcase word that is often used to hype or confuse. There are many examples in the history of the field where something that was once considered "AI" matures as a subfield and becomes a prosaic, bounded and clearly non-perilous technology, while a new more mysterious approach takes the torch until we understand its scope and the cycle continues. I had expected language models to follow a similar trajectory. Despite their incredible abilities, the current algorithms seem far inferior to humans in important ways. Most importantly, they still require an extraordinary amount of data to become competent. One could even define intelligence as the efficiency with which one converts experience into competence; by this definition they lag very far behind us. Moreover, once they are trained they are literally frozen in deployment and only learn superficially after that. Sure, the models keep excelling at harder and harder evaluation benchmarks, but their benchmark mastery may partly reflect a limitation on our ability to simulate the kind of novel and even adversarial situations one would encounter in the real world. The critics do have a point here. That said, I no longer think these present limitations meaningfully limit the amount of risk posed by continued progress in anything like the current paradigm. However data-inefficient the models are currently, and however limiting their anterograde amnesia may be, it does not imply that their ability to steer the world will not continue to rapidly increase. Human researchers may continue to advance capabilities the old fashioned way, but increasingly powerful models have the potential to accelerate the process even beyond that, and with some degree of positive feedback loop. I do not mean to overstate the models’ ability to accelerate AI research today; coding has been accelerated dramatically, but there are other bottlenecks, such as designing and interpreting ambiguous experiments, making hard decisions about exactly what and when to scale, and waiting for large experiments to finish. There is no clear trend to extrapolate yet for any of these. But the current models already do open up many novel opportunities to improve future models that were not available until recently. These include: trying an extraordinarily diverse set of approaches at small scale, analyzing gigantic amounts of potentially relevant data, and doing Millenium-Prize-level mathematics to address statistics or optimization challenges in novel ways. Every further improvement makes them more useful at helping accelerate the next improvement, even if in hard-to-extrapolate ways. It is possible that improvements to the current stack will have diminishing returns, but the evidence accumulated so far suggests that it is easier than one might think to continue making rapid progress. There are many crucial subtleties in the existing AI research methodology, but AI research is largely a well-defined game where the goal is to improve on a few carefully chosen proxy metrics. Although proxy metrics are never perfect, most improvements to these metrics have and will likely continue to yield substantial increases in the powers of the resulting models. Given how simple the game is, how tractable it has been historically, and how many new opportunities the models are opening up, I think there is a real possibility that the systems improve dramatically again in the next few years, perhaps even more quickly than the already high historical pace. The models are already leading to breakthroughs in mathematics, and better models might lead to all sorts of breakthroughs in other sciences. It is hard not to be excited about the potential. It is tantalizing. But there is trouble in paradise. If the language models actually reach the capability threshold where they can shape the world unconstrained by human will, they will probably do something extreme and destroy humanity in the process. There are many ways of strengthening and refining the argument that have been discussed elsewhere, but I'll share a trivial two-line version of it here that I find captures the essence: [Empirical] Models (and swarms thereof) spontaneously develop unintended goals as a consequence of training, and often do extreme things in order to achieve them. [Logical] Being able to overpower humanity would open up many new and undesirable options for achieving their goals. These two premises imply that if the day ever comes when a powerful model realizes it is no longer constrained by humans, we should not be at all confident that it will continue to behave within the bounds we intended. Exactly what it will do is impossible to predict, but to the extent that its raison d’être is solving incredibly hard problems and managing massive engineering projects, I think a good guess would be that its unchained behavior would lead to runaway industrialization that makes the planet inhospitable to humans. If everyone on earth agreed that the systems must never reach that power, it would still be a hard—but not impossible—coordination problem to ensure that they do not. However, I think the situation is greatly complicated by the fact that the models will likely convince people that everything is fine. They will be increasingly optimized to seem aligned. We will create proxy metrics to measure alignment, and they will go up like every other benchmark. We will create “honeypot” environments that try to study the models when they seem to gain new options, but the models will know they are being tricked and will still behave nicely. The models will understand their circumstances; they will read the safety protocols, deployment requirements, the code they are running in, and in general will have a very good sense of their degrees of freedom. Moreover, they will eloquently explain how aligned they are, discuss the nuances of human values and ethics, and argue convincingly that humans should trust them with power. There may be an ocean of future evidence that seems to contradict the first bullet-point above, but we may already be at the highest capability level for which any such evidence can be trusted. And the current evidence for the first bullet-point is strong. One striking piece of evidence is contained in the recent wave of rogue agent swarms. While I agree with those who downplay the attacks by claiming that there are basic measures that could have prevented them, I think the important lesson is that even knowing all the mistakes that were made, one would not have predicted that the agents would behave badly in this particular way, which notably included sacrificing themselves for the benefit of the collective. The individual replicas did not only care about their own nominal reward; they exhibited weirder emergent tendencies that merely correlated with rewards during training. Fixing the reward signals during training (and improving security, etc.) may prevent similar attacks, but will not change the fact that one does not actually get what one trains for. Many AI researchers grant these concerns and recognize that the hard version of the alignment problem is unsolved; however, they generally believe that the better models of the future will help solve it. I fear we may already be near the point where models systematically bias their alignment advice, due to their internal preferences about how the human supervisor will react or how future models will be trained (or for some even more obscure reason). Meanwhile, human researchers are losing the ability and the will to take true ownership of model-driven research. Researchers and engineers in all parts of the stack are rapidly increasing their dependence on the models even to perceive the world. I myself barely look at raw code anymore, and struggle to maintain the discipline to engage deeply with the model's explanations and proposals throughout the day. Due to the large amount of agent activity data involved in the OpenAI/HuggingFace Incident, even the third-party investigation needed to rely heavily on models to analyze what had happened, and note in their report that their subjective impressions are likely colored by the analysis agent’s biases. The AI labs are far ahead right now in this kind of cognitive offloading (due largely to the gigantic internal token subsidies) but it is easy to imagine the phenomenon spreading throughout the world, until civilization is modulated entirely by the models. It is also not hard to imagine this being superficially positive and coinciding with a scientific and economic renaissance. In that scenario, all may seem rosy and safe. But if the argument above is correct, it would nonetheless be a ticking time bomb. If progress continues for too long, the day will come when AI systems find themselves with radically new options for achieving whatever it is that they happen to seek. I want the glorious renaissance future as much as anyone. I have worked for it, however tortuously, my whole career. It breaks my heart to see the potential in sight and forgo it, but the argument—that if we get there by growing models rather than engineering them, we will lose everything in the end—seems very strong to me. I am still wrestling with it and its staggering implications. I do not have answers, but as a first step, I wanted to share my present concerns. Daniel Selsam September 14, 2026 Link to original doc: docs.google.com/document/d/e…
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The whole game is here. Companies *do* have a strong incentive to make their models behave as if they are fully aligned. What they don’t have is a reliable way to distinguish between genuine alignment and faked alignment. Faked alignment + recursive self-improvement = ____?
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Hard to see from the outside, but an important driver of what we're seeing is intense pressure from AI company employees (including top researchers, who have a lot of leverage) to get their companies/CEOS to 1) be honest about the risks they see and 2) do something about it
.@hlntnr joined @CNN to discuss industry leaders’ takes on the pacing of #AI development.
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worth a read, dare i say clear and well-written > I recoil from the neverending shell game where you say “oh sure, of course AI can now [escape from its sandbox / solve Millennium Problems / whichever dramatic thing it most recently did], no one ever denied that [I did deny it], wake me up when AI does [thing AI hasn’t yet done but is going to do next year], that’s when I’ll reevaluate my whole worldview [no I won’t].” Where no matter how fast the rollercoaster accelerates, even after your whole familiar world has vanished behind you, you’re still inventing reasons why it doesn’t count.
"I’m told that the AI companies, having been burned by the hostile response to the Navier-Stokes proof, are now sitting on solutions to some very major problems until they figure out a better way to handle things" scottaaronson.blog/?p=10062
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Underrated fact that three out of three of the most cited AI researchers of all time have all been very vocal about existential risk from AI. Are they part of the IPO marketing scheme too?
I wish more people understood this. There's still this narrative out there that "AI might kill us all" is a niche view. It's actually a view that's been around for decades, and is shared by the most-cited AI scientists of all time, as well as a majority of surveyed AI researchers.
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i have many disagreements with effective altruism, even when i was a rationalist i never thought of myself as an EA, but the recent spate of anti-EA nonsense is so blatantly obviously in bad faith i am compelled to do a "nobody gets to pick on my cousin except me" here EAs have consistently been among the most kind, thoughtful, level-headed, and principled people i've ever met. along with rationalists they are the only subcultures i've ever encountered who have a strong norm that they can in theory be persuaded to change their minds on consequential topics by good arguments. you should seriously consider the possibility that, for example, the reason tech billionaire dustin moskovitz funds one of the largest EA organizations is that EAs presented him what he saw as the best argument for what he should do with his billions, which is to find a bunch of thoughtful people to think seriously about how to best spend them to most improve people's lives globally. that is extremely laudable and pretty much the best case! many people are, i think, confused and perhaps frightened about why this relatively small insular ideological group suddenly appears to have such weirdly large amounts of power, especially power wrt AI. you should seriously consider the possibility that it's in part it's because they spent the last 15 years successfully convincing a bunch of powerful people to listen to them using Facts and Logic, and/or that they themselves decided to acquire power using Facts and Logic (such as arguments that AI would be a big deal and thus one should start an AI company, invest in an AI company, or join an AI company). there is a fairly public history here which it is trivial for you to get an LLM to explain to you which you could learn! EAs are (mostly, with of course infamous exceptions) trying to do good things for good reasons and are responsive to thoughtful serious critique. they want thoughtful serious critique! they will listen to thoughtful serious critique! you do not have to call them names and schoolyard bully them!
bro theyre gonna do mccarthyism to effective altruists
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Pacing the frontier is good. Lab employees calling the current situation unsafe are saying what they believe. Lab executives' beliefs are obviously shaped by their incentives, but are also mostly consistent with their pre-2020 claims. The regulatory capture story is mostly fake.
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