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Buchanan was clearly a gay president (likely had an affair with William Rufus, VP of Pierce). But he was also one of the worst presidents so no one wants to claim him. Instead we call him our only βbachelor presidentβ
Replying to @mjones_books @realdrcharliewa
This is clearly the right answer.
The issue was that he was also a terrible president so no one wants to claim himβ¦.
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
The study shows you donβt need to
Income -> MAP
Income does NOT -> MAP growth
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
You actually donβt. NWEA has shown there is no impact of income (or demographics) on MAP growth once you control for MAP baseline
If an org can show faster than average MAP growth that is real regardless of selection effects
βWhile absolute achievement scores (a student's fixed baseline percentile) are heavily influenced by household income, the rate of change in that score over time is decoupled from socioeconomic status.β
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
Yes. And that is why high income kids have higher MAP scores and why higher MAP score kids improve their MAP scores faster than lower score kids
But once you control for MAP income has barely any impact in the rate of change of MAP %iles
Study: nwea.org/poverty-and-school-β¦
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
Fusion: βstudents can learn material at double the normal paceβ
Acton: βMost Acton students progress through their core curriculum at two to three grade levels in a single yearβ
Khan: βstudents master concepts years ahead of their traditional grade peersβ
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
Alpha isnβt selective. If a kid can focus for about 20 minutes they are accepted.
Why do you think demographics are a better comparison group than MAP scores?
Replying to @DanFriedman81
So 170 is now about 90th percentile
And 180 is still 99.9th percentile?
Seems like it makes it hard to make a granular decision at the top end.
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
7.3mm take them per year. About 20%
But the point isnβt MAP, itβs improvement on MAP based on the same kids taking the MAP in the same %ile three months earlier
Iβm honestly not sure how you measure better
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
Most donβt make learning claims they just infer them by listing things like SAT scores, Ivy matriculation, selectivity, doctorate rates of teachers, college courses offered, and AP pass rate. All driven by selection effects
Alpha just claims 2.8x on MAP scores
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
I paid higher tuition at the last school the kids were at. We only pay $25k at one of the less fancy schools. I have every incentive to hold them to a high standard or I will pull them out of here too
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
The overall results are released. The percentiles are real. We just donβt know which schools are doing better than average given starting points
Alpha definitely missed their target in AZ, but they still improved significantly better than the average given starting point
Meanwhile all the schools that are NOT being criticized donβt share anything at allβ¦.
Alpha has a lot of things it needs to work on but at least I can see how my kids are doing and work through the gaps that happen. Other schools we have been at are complete black box
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
The claims are just that kids improve MAP scores 2.8x faster than other kids of the same MAP scores across the US. That is as apples to apples as it gets
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
AZ school did not hit the internal goals but the kids in the program still improved their MAP scores significantly more than the rest of the state (they were still lower than average at the end of the year, but they started WAY lower than average)
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
I think they are convinced it works and they are βhell bentβ on expanding it to meet demand. Theyβve launched ~50 schools in the last year. I expect operationally they are strapped. Why would they limit demand to run more tests when it wonβt convince critics anyway?
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
Itβs not true in sports. Lots of investment and options in America for the top 1% in athletics.
Replying to @mikesully97 @DanaGoldstein
βMost of tuition not being academicsβ is true at every high end private school (and elite universities)
Alpha also tuns Nova Academy and GTA which are both ~$10k that get similar (or better) MAP improvements but donβt have the $70k/yr bells and whistles
