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the first 48 hours of Woke 2 has already produced more humor than the entire decade of Woke 1
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Joe Rogan just passes on any ol' lie he finds in the deepest holes of the internet, even when the lie is raw hate from beginning to end.
Israel allows genetic testing. Almost all clinical tests and prenatal tests are actually covered under our national health insurance.
And you absolutely can get ancestry testing in Israel. 23AndMe specifically, which Joe mentions as outlawed in Israel, ships to Israel. Go to their international website and try it before you spread this dumb, mean lie. Also FamilyTreeDNA and some others.
And once you get your raw DNA information through 23AndMe and others, you can upload it to every other ancestry website for analysis.
In fact, Ashkenazi Jews, including Israeli Ashkenazim, are some of the most genetically studied populations on the fucking planet, you racist dolts. (Oops, just realized I'm kinda pissed.)
There are even Israeli studies by Israeli researchers of Israeli Jewish genetics. Nature has published studies using Israeli genetics databases. Here, for example: nature.com/articles/nature09…
So what does Israel actually restrict, and why is it so severe about it?
Two words: Parentage and obsessive privacy rules.
Parentage tests are as tightly controlled as heroin.
The reason is peculiar to our tradition and may be hard for outsiders to understand. In Jewish religious law, a "mamzer," someone born of the mother's adultery or from incest, lives a restricted life in some ways, including limits on who they can marry under traditional laws. And their religious status is heritable. These are ancient laws, but they matter in a basically conservative and religious society.
To protect children from ever becoming saddled with this status, parentage tests require a family court order, even if both parents consent to the test. Because the child has to be protected. Rabbinical courts have often forbidden testing almost across the board, including in divorce cases. In one case I once read about, the rabbinical court quashed the father's genetic test and demanded that he adopt the child to avoid any doubt. This was to protect the child in that particular case. The court refused to release the father from responsibility for the child and refused to examine evidence into the child's actual parentage.
Is this a weird cultural artifact born from a specific feature of the Jewish tradition? Yes. Feel free to make fun of it over in the secular West. I make fun of it myself over here. But inasmuch as old traditional rules are an unavoidable part of our big-family, tightly-knit society, I'll take this weirdness, and the never-ending effort to cleverly circumvent the damaging parts of the old traditions, over what's happening in your neck of the woods.
Is it all an attempt to hide the 2000 years we spent in Europe? No, you dolt. What the hell is wrong with you?
And then there's privacy. Pay attention to this one, because you'll wish you had some of our rules in your own country.
This is the only real limit on ancestry kits.
Your genetic information is totally, utterly private. Your employer and your insurance company can never discriminate against you based on your genetics. Even just attempting to get their hands on your genetic information is a felony. Labs and genetic counselors are closely regulated.
In the age of AI, even just the leaking of a *relative's* genetic information can hurt your employability and your insurance premiums. And it's not some crazy fear. Ancestry kit companies are bought and sold by commercial investors all the time, and they're the owners of customers' data. A data breach of 23AndMe in 2023 put the genetic information of millions on the internet. You're telling me insurance companies didn't scoop it up? Israelis are more protected from that dystopian new reality than most of the rest of you.
And importantly, the law's prohibitions are on the commercial companies, not on the customer. Giving someone your own genetic information isn't a crime. The company buying and selling it commercially within the jurisdiction of Israeli law is committing the crime.
That's why the one company that's actually hampered in any meaningful way from testing Israelis is MyHeritage, which is Israeli. To bypass Israeli jurisdiction and that massive privacy regime, Israelis just order a kit from a company in Texas.
So why do literally hundreds of millions of people believe the lie that Israel has a blanket restriction on genetic testing to avoid anyone ever finding out that Ashkenazi Jews come from Europe?
At its core, at its most basic: because they want to create the permission structure to destroy Israel. They want to declare Israel a colonialist, imperialist interloper doomed to be felled by the noble indigenous Arab of the land.
So they declare that Israel is hiding this great, terrible secret that nobody has ever hidden and nobody could ever hide -- that it doesn't actually belong here.
Never mind the fact that every study of Ashkenazi Jews shows that they have origins in the Levant -- isn't it a bit odd that this argument never grapples with the millions of Israeli Jews who spent the past 1,800 years in places like Iraq and Yemen, Jews who were expelled and fled to the last man, woman and child to Israel, and who make up half of Israeli society today?
You'd think if this was actually about Israeli "genetics," that would be part of this conversation. But it isn't about any kind of reality, it's a bigoted, genocidal fantasy. So the millions of Jews who don't even come from Europe magically disappear from this conversation.
I don't think Joe Rogan dreams of our annihilation. I think Joe picks up garbage floating in the juices at the bottom of the internet's deepest garbage bins and launders it happily for clicks.
New: Joe Rogan reveals to comedian Sam Tallent that the real reason Israel restricts DNA ancestry testing is because most of the people over there aren’t Semites and are actually just European Jews:
ROGAN: “The real Semites are the Palestinians. Benjamin Netanyahu’s family is from Poland.”
CONTEXT: Israel does have restrictions on DNA testing.
According to Israel's Ministry of Health, paternity and family-relationship DNA tests generally require a COURT ORDER, even when everyone involved consents.
And there's an especially surprising detail.
MyHeritage, an ancestry-testing company HEADQUARTERED IN ISRAEL that offers DNA kits internationally, explicitly lists ISRAEL among the countries where its consumer ancestry tests are unavailable.
But that does NOT establish Rogan's allegation about WHY these restrictions exist.
Israel's genetic-information laws address matters including consent, family relationships, privacy, and potential consequences for children.
There is no substantiated evidence that the restrictions were created to conceal the ethnic origins of Israel's Jewish population.
And when Rogan brings up Netanyahu's Polish family roots, he's referencing something with a documented historical basis.
Netanyahu's father, Benzion Netanyahu, was born in WARSAW in 1910, before his family immigrated to what was then British Mandatory Palestine.
But European family history doesn't automatically mean someone has no ancient Middle Eastern ancestry.
In fact, scientific research reveals a much more complicated story.
IMPORTANT NOTES: A major genetic study published in NATURE in 2010 found evidence connecting many Jewish diaspora communities to shared ancestral origins in the LEVANT.
And a 2020 study published in CELL examined ancient DNA from Bronze Age populations in the region.
Researchers found substantial genetic continuity between ancient Levantine populations and multiple populations living in the region today, including Jewish and Arab communities.
In other words, the evidence points to a history of shared regional ancestry, migrations, and intermixing. It’s not a simple genetic division between two populations.
Then Rogan takes the discussion even further.
He questions whether the term ANTISEMITISM should instead be called “anti-Jewish,” arguing that Palestinians have a stronger claim to being called Semites.
But there's another important historical distinction.
“Semitic” originally refers to a LANGUAGE FAMILY that includes Hebrew and Arabic, not a scientifically defined genetic race.
And the word “antisemitism,” despite its linguistic roots, has historically referred specifically to hostility or prejudice toward JEWISH PEOPLE.
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Extensive genetic research shows Ashkenazi Jews have significant Levantine ancestry with Y-chromosomes tracing to the region.
Israeli law regulated domestic lab genetic testing amid privacy fears. Israelis can purchase commercial ancestry tests from abroad.
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genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.11…
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12…
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The Bagel People retweeted
Saudis are providing a more responsible analysis of Israel’s war against Hamas than many members of Congress.
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Thanks for all the feedback on my last tweet—here is my reply: last night Abdul El-Sayed doubled down on the claims that got him in hot water last week, mainly the idea that rising costs in America are because of US funding of “genocide,” as he put it last night.
He made versions of this claim not once but 3 times.
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Top Democrat strategist Van Jones,
One of Obama’s former aides during his presidency
Released this message to #Michigan on #AbdulElSayed
#Midterms
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Jewish Democrats are hopeful today that with U.S. funding to Israel ending and AIPAC politically diminished and no longer funding candidates, the hatred will stop.
Here in Canada we have no AIPAC equivalent, and our funding to Israel is insignificant.
The hatred is worse.
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If you’re under 30, the most important thing you need to understand about Stevens’ endorsement is that, just 10 years ago, a candidate who (a) signed a letter urging the Muslim Brotherhood to eliminate pro democracy dissidents in Egypt, or (b) refused to disavow a surrogate who claimed America deserved 9/11 or an ad that claimed you can’t afford groceries because bloodthirsty Israelis love to kill children, or (c) said “hurt people hurt people” about a terrorist who tried to murder dozens of children, would not have polled above 2% in a Democratic primary, and that today a Democrat who says that supporting a candidate like the above is a bridge too far in the name of party loyalty is being called a traitor by the Democrat Senate Minority Leader.
Haley Stevens is a patriot who put country over party.
Idag var jag med om en av de märkligare ögonblicken i min karriär. Jag var inbjuden att diskutera Israel/”Palestina” (vad annars?) i studio 3s soffprogram på YouTube. Både Kasselstrand och en kolla från Palestinarörelsen vid namn Fayad var med och på något sätt, i hård konkurrens med dessa herrar lyckades en ung man vid namn Magnus Sturm (vad annat än Sturm?) från den så kallade tankesmedjan Katalys leverera ett av de mest absurda situationer jag varit med om i sådana här sammanhang.
Mitt i en rant om att Israel mördar barn (vad annars?) vänder han sig till mig och frågar varför jag överhuvudtaget är engagerad i den här frågan. ”Jag ser dig alltid ute och veva men varför är du ens engagerad i det här?” eller något i den stilen.
Jag blev faktiskt ställd. För förutom att jag är jude, barnbarn till förintelseöverlevare i alla led vars släkt mördades i Förintelsen, har bott i Israel som barn, har släktingar och vänner i Israel och ser Israel som garanten för att jag ska kunna leva säkert som svensk jude så är det självklart för mig eftersom det är en fråga som handlar om västerländsk civilisation, om liberal demokrati mot barbari, om rätt och fel, sanning och lögn och alla dessa ting är mig mycket kära.
Det absurda består i att han, etnisk svensk så vitt jag kan bedöma eller med något tyskt ursprung om jag ska drista mig att gissa med anledning av hans efternamn, är så engagerad i den här konflikten. Varför bryr han sig? Hans expertområde enligt katalys hemsida är kriminalpolitik, psykisk ohälsa och unga män. Inte geopolitik.
Jag har inte sett några demonstrationer av den svenska vänstern för de hundratusentals som dödats i Jemen, Syrien, Sudan, eller de miljontals som dött i Kongo. Men den här skitkonflikten med relativt få döda i jämförelse får hans blod att koka. Den engagerar varenda fiber i hans kropp.
Men så är det. En analys av nästan 14,7 miljoner nyhetsartiklar (på 65 språk) visade att Israel får oproportionerligt hög och ihållande täckning:
• Även under relativt lugna år (t.ex. 2019) var 1 av 112 internationella artiklar primärt om Israel. Israel rankades högst i världen i täckning per capita.
• 2024 nämndes Israel i 1 av 26 artiklar globalt – mer än dubbelt så många artiklar som alla 48 länder i Afrika söder om Sahara tillsammans.
• Efter 7 oktober 2023 låg Israel på i genomsnitt 5,65 % av amerikansk kabel-TV-tid under ett helt år – högre än Ukraina året efter Rysslands invasion. Tigray-kriget i Etiopien (uppskattningsvis ~600 000 döda) nådde aldrig ens 0,03 %.
Det är oproportionerligt. Jag skulle säga patologiskt. Och enda anledningen är att ena sidan består av judar. Han skulle aldrig tillstå det själv såklart men jag har inte heller sett vänstern eller palestinierna själva protestera när de massmördas av Hamas, torteras av Fatah eller skjuts i drösar av Libanon.
Denna patologi är ett symptom på ett samhälle i förfall. Som hellre fokuserar på judar 3 325 km bort än sina egna problem hemma i Sverige. Eller för den delen vårt närområde. Hans frågar avslöjar en okunskap om historien, om vilka vårt samhälles fiender är, ja, om det mesta faktiskt. Och han är produkten av den svenska skolan, den svenska pressen och svensk kultur.
Så bra jobbat allihopa! Jag hoppas att ni är nöjda med er själva.
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🗳️ Israel votes today
In a region where free elections are rare, millions of Israelis are heading to the polls today to choose the 26th Knesset. It's the first election since October 7.
That's what makes Israel the only democracy in the Middle East:
✅ Every citizen votes: Jews, Arabs, Druze, right and left
✅ You can protest the government in the streets, and just two days ago, huge crowds did exactly that in Tel Aviv
✅ A sitting prime minister can lose at the ballot box
✅ Power is decided by votes, not by force
What people are talking about on X:
🔹 A tight race between Netanyahu's Likud and the bloc led by Gadi Eisenkot's Yashar party
🔹 Polls show neither bloc reaching 61 seats, so tough coalition talks are expected
🔹 Prediction markets favor Eisenkot
🔹 Security, Iran, and accountability for October 7 are at the center of the debate
🔹 Even voices from inside Iran are joining the conversation
Whoever you support, go vote.
That's our power, and it's what sets us apart in this region. 🇮🇱
Polls close at 10 PM.
The Bagel People retweeted
FACT: The annual funding Israel receives from the US amounts to less than one-tenth of 1% of the federal budget. Less than 1/10th of 1%.
FACT: That annual funding would cover only a few hours of federal health care spending. A few hours.
Yet politicians who specialize in scapegoating would have you believe that Israel is responsible for America’s affordability crisis.
Like every form of scapegoating before it, it is a dangerous lie.
The Bagel People retweeted
Eggs are like $2.27. Bananas about $0.41 per pound. But Democrats never let the facts get in the way of a chance to blame those dirty Jews. Fitting that this is how el Sayed closes: lying in service of anti-Semitism.
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I took no AIPAC money when I ran for Congress. I think its approach needs to change. But singling out AIPAC while giving every other lobby a pass is hypocritical. When Jewish political participation is treated as uniquely sinister, that’s antisemitism.





























