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This is bigger than Herbert. Itâs a QB conversation.
Kurt Warner sees it. Russell Wilson has touched on it. Dan has talked about it.
Three QBs with VERY different NFL careers, all recognizing something similar: Herbert doesnât look comfortable.
And that matters.
When a QB who has given you years of tape suddenly starts looking uncharacteristic, the evaluation canât stop at:
âThe QB is playing bad.â
Of course he is. Herbert threw the INTs. Heâs missed throws. He deserves criticism for that.
But evaluating a QB without evaluating what heâs being asked to operate is like blaming a race car driver for slower lap times without asking what changed under the hood.
Maybe the driver made mistakes. Hold him accountable for them.
But if the same driver suddenly canât take corners heâs handled for years, youâd be foolish not to inspect the car tooâŚ.
Scheme dictates what youâre asked to process. Footwork affects timing. Protection affects your internal clock. Route concepts determine where the answers are. And when a QB starts thinking instead of reacting, everything can look a half second slow.
This applies to ANY quarterback.
Good coaching isnât proving your QB can execute your offenseâŚ.
Itâs building an offense that allows your QB to play fast and consistently do what he does best.
When experienced NFL quarterbacks watch the tape and repeatedly say âthis doesnât look like him,â thatâs worth paying attention to.
I know there are a bunch of really smart ppl in the Chargers building, but the tape is leaving me befuddled conceptually! It almost feels like they are trying things bc #Herbert is a freak and they think he can do things others canât, but it makes little sense!
Yes, I felt Herbert was uncomfortable earlier in year & missed some OPPs being tentative, yesterday, he had a couple bad INTs, but so many concepts left me uncomfortable for him watching the tape!
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Jared Goff has thrown more touchdowns (14) than he has taken sacks (12), and his next interception will be his first since January. Averaging 9.3 yards/dropback when operating play action.
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Reflex has so often been to credit his play callers over the years. Maybe he's just good.
â[Jared Goff]âs a true NFL quarterback. ⌠For years heâs been like this.â
Rex Ryan, @danorlovsky7 and @Foxworth24 give praise to Lionsâ QB after their win against the Packers đŚ
Patrick Mahomes is an elite quarterback. Tonight doesnât change that.
Kansas City scored 3 points. Mahomes threw for 165 yards with an INT, while the offense struggled with protection, rushing production and receiving effectiveness.
And as this guy correctly points out, Kansas City has personnel concerns beyond quarterback.
Does that mean Mahomes suddenly forgot how to play football?
I would say absolutely not.
But hereâs my question: Why is it reasonable to discuss offensive tackles, receivers, coaching and roster construction when Mahomes struggles, yet those same factors are dismissed as excuses when discussing Herbert, Allen, Burrow or other quarterbacks?
Mahomes deserves criticism for his performance tonight, just as every QB does when they struggle.
But the standard of evaluation shouldnât change depending on whose name is on the jersey or what team you root for.
I will continue to say context isnât an excuse. Itâs part of the evaluation process.
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Tom Brady is getting tired of the officiating:
"What? There's no way. Oh come on man. Come on."
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"Trading Justin Herbert because the Chargers arenât winning is like replacing the engine because the tires are flat."
Trading Justin Herbert because the Chargers arenât winning is like replacing the engine because the tires are flat.
The gamble isnât just finding another franchise QB. Itâs spending years and draft capital trying to replace something you already have, while the original problems remain.
From 2002â2023, FOX Sports classified 39 of 61 first-round QBs as misses (64%).
Trading Herbert doesnât solve your roster problems. It just adds QB to the list.
Jim Harbaugh was coaching Michigan when Jeremiah Smith was the No. 1 recruit in the country.
Fast-forward three years.
The Chargers are 0â6, and Jeremiah Smith is eligible for the 2027 NFL Draft.
Iâm not saying Jim is intentionally losing gamesâŚ
But what if heâs playing chess while the rest of us are playing checkers? âď¸đđ
Jim, is this a football season or a three-year recruiting strategy? đ
For those who believe a QB should just âcarry his teamâ to victoryâŚ
Should Brock Purdy have somehow prevented the defender from perfectly punching the ball out of Kittleâs hands?
Or does that context suddenly not matter because the QB gets the win or loss?
Purdy deserves accountability for HIS mistakes. But so does everyone else.
Football is a team sport. That shouldnât be controversial.
Burrow and Chase have 53 TDs as a QB-WR duo. They are only behind Dan Marino and Mark Clayton (65), and tied with Moss/Culpepper and Hadi/Alworth
Having a dynamic receiver can make a huge difference for a QB.
xitter.cf/fantasypros/status/211âŚ
1,039 receiving yards. 9 TDs. From two receivers in just six games.
This is why supporting casts matter.
Having multiple dangerous WRs forces defenses to make difficult coverage decisions, creates opportunities and raises an offenseâs ceiling.
Jordan Love deserves credit for getting the ball to his guys. His receivers deserve credit for helping him execute and catching the ball
Context isnât an excuse. Itâs part of evaluating EVERY quarterback fairly.
Matthew Golden and Christian Watson combined this season:
1,039 receiving yards
9 receiving TDs
They rank 1st among all duos in football in both categories entering Week 6, per @SumerSports.
play.underdogsports.com/vgwgâŚ
Where does your teamâs offensive line rank across 2023â2025?
The combined rankings:
1 â Broncos
2 â Bills
3 â Eagles
4 â Ravens
5 â Chiefs
T6 â Buccaneers
T6 â Packers
8 â Falcons
T9 â Lions
T9 â Rams
T9 â Vikings
T12 â 49ers
T12 â Bears
T12 â Steelers
15 â Commanders
16 â Colts
17 â Giants
T18 â Chargers
T18 â Cowboys
T20 â Dolphins
T20 â Jaguars
22 â Browns
23 â Cardinals
24 â Raiders
T25 â Panthers
T25 â Patriots
T25 â Seahawks
28 â Jets
T29 â Texans
T29 â Titans
31 â Saints
32 â Bengals
Pocket Context combined ESPNâs team pass-block win rate rankings with PFFâs overall offensive-line rankings.
I averaged each teamâs annual ranks within each source, ranked those three-season averages, then averaged the two placements equally.
T = tied. Both sources and all three seasons receive equal weight.
This blends pass-blocking results with overall OL evaluations. It isnât a pure pass-protection grade or a measurement of everything a quarterback had around him.
PFFâs editorial rankings can reflect ideal lineups; its 2023 Chargers ranking assumed Corey Linsley was available.
2026 is excluded. PFR remains withheld until conflicting pressure totals reconcile.
For context..
Mahomes losing key starters matters. Absolutely.
But OL adversity isnât unique to him.
I looked at PFFâs final offensive line rankings since 2020:
Mahomes: 11, 5, 4, 7, 7, 10
Allen: 10, 17, 23, 6, 5, 6
Burrow: 30, 20, 28, 26, 30
Lamar: 16, 21, 2, 5, 9, 16
Herbert: 32, 10, 17, 16, 21, 30
Seasons finishing outside the top 15:
Mahomes: 0/6 (7.3 avg rank)
Allen: 2/6 (11.2)
Lamar: 3/6 (11.5)
Herbert: 5/6 (21.0)
Burrow*: 5/5 (26.8)
Season-long rankings donât capture every injury, but they reveal differences in sustained OL performance.
Adversity deserves context. But context isnât exclusive to one QB.
If it matters for Mahomes, it matters for everyone.
*Burrow: 2020â2024.
Trading Justin Herbert because the Chargers arenât winning is like replacing the engine because the tires are flat.
The gamble isnât just finding another franchise QB. Itâs spending years and draft capital trying to replace something you already have, while the original problems remain.
From 2002â2023, FOX Sports classified 39 of 61 first-round QBs as misses (64%).
Trading Herbert doesnât solve your roster problems. It just adds QB to the list.
My answer: Somewhere between 2â4 out of 10, depending on the offense and how much the QB is being asked to do within that scheme.
The QB is the engine of a car. Arguably its most important component. But you can put a Ferrari engine in a car with four flat tires, a failing transmission, and broken brakes. It doesnât matter how powerful that engine is. Youâre not winning many races.
The same applies to football.
Yes, the QB touches the ball on almost every offensive play. But not all touches are equal. A handoff isnât the same as reading a defense, changing protections, or making a tight-window throw under pressure.
Weâve seen QBs win games while contributing relatively little beyond protecting the football. Detroit even won a game in 2024 with Goff throwing five interceptions.
Weâve also seen QBs operate like field generals, constantly reading defenses, changing plays, and creating opportunities when things break down.
But even the best engine can only do so much if the rest of the car isnât functioning properly.
A bad offensive line? Good luck consistently getting the ball out.
Receivers dropping perfectly placed passes? The QB did his job, but the result doesnât reflect it.
A terrible offensive scheme? Even great execution can only overcome so much.
A defense that canât stop anyone? Now the QB has to overcome what happens on both sides of the ball.
Special teams? An entire game can come down to a missed kick after the QB put his team in position to win.
The irony is that QB is arguably the hardest position to play in sports, while simultaneously being one of the most dependent on everyone else doing their job.
A QB can carry the most weight while still needing to be carried.
Being the most important player doesnât mean being responsible for everything.
Thatâs why Iâm at 2â4/10 when assigning responsibility for the TEAMâS wins and losses, not measuring his contribution to the offense.
But, I am curious where everyone disagrees.
The QB is widely considered the most important position in football.
But heâs still just 1 of 22 offensive and defensive starters on the field. That doesnât include special teams, coaching, or the front office.
So hereâs my question:
On a scale of 1â10, how much responsibility should a QB reasonably carry for his teamâs wins and losses?
Give me your number. Then defend it.
The QB is widely considered the most important position in football.
But heâs still just 1 of 22 offensive and defensive starters on the field. That doesnât include special teams, coaching, or the front office.
So hereâs my question:
On a scale of 1â10, how much responsibility should a QB reasonably carry for his teamâs wins and losses?
Give me your number. Then defend it.






















