Can't say he's wrong
must feel good to be an Anthropic co-founder
> help build chatgpt at OAI by training on world's collective knowledge
> keep model weights closed to extract max profit from every token you sell
> leave and launch a direct competitor
> spend years and millions lobbying washington on how dangerous your own models are
> get designated a supply chain risk by the pentagon and fail to ban OSS anyway
> pay $1.5bn to settle over 500k pirated books (while watching equity value rocket past $2tn)
> predict you will soon create a "country of geniuses in a data center", warn that half of entry level white collar jobs will vanish, and sell the dream of curing cancer
> have your staff call it presumptuous to expect your company to make money
> meanwhile have your company buy back your shares above fair value, then sell again in a second tender and into the IPO
> pledge 80% to charity, which your own s1 calls "voluntary, revocable" and "not legally binding"
> keep a fixed 50.1% of the votes through one share, even after selling 98%
> help pick the trustees who pick the board
> park 5% of the company in a "public benefit fund" you co-run
> have shareholders cover the private jet for personal use
> call it a public benefit corporation anyway
Jeff Greenfeld retweeted
BREAKING: Microsoft, $MSFT, is offering buyouts to 60,000 workers as part of the company’s efforts to cut costs amid AI adoption, per Bloomberg.
Personnel on select teams in the US, Canada, India, and the UK at a vice president level and below will be eligible.
This reflects ~27% of Microsoft's total workforce.
Not mentioned: duration risk.
Short term revenues
Longer term compute contracts
Everything is fine as long as demand for compute outstrips supply of compute. Maybe even better than fine, if prices are high enough on secondary markets. You just sell excess capacity to the market.
But what happens when we reach supply-demand equilibrium? You’re kind of betting that doesn’t happen until those LTAs are expired. Otherwise… you’re trapped in a bad lease.
Honestly, I’m getting REIT vibes and I won’t elaborate.
Jeff Greenfeld retweeted
"The one thing you knew if you ever built a software company is that you cannot throw money at the problem."
@bhorowitz wrote The Case for the Fat Startup in 2010, arguing that startups should raise enough money to squash their competition. He leads a firm renowned for pumping founders with cash.
Joining @a16z's 2026 Just a Few Billy More fundraising tour, he's back to assure LPs that while this strategy was a failure for SaaS and NFTs, it will work for AI.
Despite all the evidence that capital has a convex relationship with success, at every level and in every strategy, this is a noisy return to the "capital as a moat" nonsense of ZIRP.
Surely, this has nothing to do with his firm's incentives to raise and deploy as much and as quickly as possible, or the desire to market large pools of capital as advantageous for founders.
Ben Horowitz (@bhorowitz): The laws of physics of company building changed.
You can throw money at problems now.
"If you have the data and you have enough GPUs, you can solve damn near anything."
Technical moats aren't dead. They're just turning into capital moats.
Whoever spends more on data and compute can catch up (or stay ahead).
Strong teams that are well capitalized get exponentially more leverage than before.
alright finally through the Anthropic S-1.
Great quarter and I love the product, but I don’t like the governance structure, and I don’t know how much I trust Dario et. Al. to be a good steward of my money. In fact, they’re very clear that maximizing returns is not the goal.
The demand for compute is creating an interesting dynamic where the LTAs are providing a kind of backstop against model risk… if OAI develops a better model and everyone switches over (again), Anthropic can always sell their spare compute for more than they paid. In fact, that arbitrage is basically the entire business! Anthropic has locked in a bunch of compute (read: commoditized tokens) and is selling those tokens for a profit.
So the real test of this company comes when compute prices level off and their arbitrage utility margins compress.
Perhaps the sale of the neoclouds was a bit hasty
Jeff Greenfeld retweeted
If you think San Francisco is only 4-5 years behind NYC culturally then you are a philistine idiot. San Francisco is decades behind NYC and anyone with an iota of taste in their body knows this. NYC clears SF in food, night life, music, arts, fashion, urbanism, walkability, intellectual spaces, and exposed brick walls. If you have observed how people in the two cities even just dress and carry themselves you know it's a hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby situation. NYC has comedy clubs, theater, and intellectual life spanning EVERYTHING, not just AI and tech. In New York I can go see a play, get dinner in a dimly lit restaurant, and then get drinks with my friends for like $500. You can't do that in SF. In NYC I can go to a party in Brooklyn and meet amazing experimental visual artists who really don't like getting asked if their parents pay for their nice 1 bedrooms. Yesterday I went bar hopping during the day to catch all the Big 10 football games which is becoming a huge cultural mainstay in Manhattan. Yeah, we're culturally and intellectually superior to San Francisco tech nerds. Do I even need to mention the subway?
Gosh who do you think has better visibility into the AI buildout and innovation? The founder of NVIDIA or the guy who paid $44B for Twitter hmmmmm
Jeff Greenfeld retweeted
I wrote a few weeks ago that Amazon blocking agents would be an opportunity for Walmart. Now Walmart is building an MCP server so agents can shop there directly.
Amazon has a huge ($50B+), high-margin ads business to protect. Walmart has a much smaller ecom business, and thousands of physical stores.
Walmart also cares about being disintermediated, but even if an agent does the shopping online, people will still walk into Walmart stores to buy things.
So Walmart has another way to maintain that relationship with customers, while potentially picking up some of the purchases Amazon is turning away.
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As Amazon blocks AI agents from shopping on its site, Walmart is taking the opposite approach, introducing new technology that lets AI agents make purchases on customers' behalf, with controls over spending and transaction approvals.
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Jeff Greenfeld retweeted
Replying to @ViralManager
“I’m gonna need a month to run a diligence process on *checks notes* two guys and an idea that doesn’t earn any money atm”
100%. If you can’t give a high level yes/ no within 10 minutes of meeting a founder and their company, you’re probably allocating in the wrong asset class.
I think the startup world has made fundraising way too much of a full-time job.
Founders spend six months pitching 100 VCs, tweaking decks, chasing introductions, and answering the same questions over and over.
Then they finally raise $5M, celebrate for a week, and start preparing for the next round.
At some point, when do you actually build the company?
I’ve seen founders who are incredible at raising money but surprisingly average at running a business.
Fundraising is an important skill, but it’s not the business.
Your job isn’t to convince investors you’re building something valuable.
It’s to actually build something valuable.
The best fundraising strategy is having a business investors can’t ignore.
Jeff Greenfeld retweeted
Heard from VC LPs this week. It was our AGM, so I had a ton of convos. Theme is liquidity and differentiation. Some quotes 👇🏻
- “we see a huge difference btw the posture of the GPs who do public + private and those that just do VC/Growth. They are living in different realities.”
- “every GP is raising again faster than we thought, either because they just blew through the money, or because they want a war chest for when the market trips over itself”
- “Across the top GPs, everyone is in market. TVPIs look amazing - differentiation is DPI, concentration and portfolio mgt”
- “We really need the PE guys to start selling some stuff!!”
- “If Anthropic IPO goes great, we are worried it sets the bar too high for everyone else. And if it doesn’t go great, then the bar is even higher…”
Fuck your priors! Fantastic interview. Instant follow. I used to wake up for dawn patrol in high school.
New @ThePeelPod with @orenzeev
He manages $2.7B across 11 funds with no team. He has no meetings, doesn't write investment memos, and has never shown an LP a single slide from a deck.
We get in to the 30-minute conversation that turned into his first fund, why most partners add negative value, the days his calendar is empty enough to surf on a Tuesday, his fund that had only five companies (and why diversification is a lie), how Navan went from a $90M run rate to zero in a month (and survived), why he does cross-fund investing, refusing DPI when LP's want it, and the 30-year history of Israel's startup economy.
Full episode here + links below.
Timestamps:
0:00 Running $2.7B with no team or partners
1:58 How one person can beat a team
4:43 Omission beats commission: why committees miss
7:13 What really fills a partnership's day
9:23 The returns business, not the production business
10:58 A week in his nearly empty calendar
16:49 The mistakes new solo GP's make
19:34 Eleven funds, zero slides
22:09 No thesis
24:28 Why diversification doesn't work
27:14 The fund with only five companies
30:44 TripActions insight: everyone hates their travel software
34:59 Paying employees to spend less
37:34 COVID: $90M run rate to zero
39:24 How Navan survived
41:34 A $100M round with no way to price it
44:29 Keeping the team: the real test of leadership
46:04 What Oren looks for in founders
50:39 Cross-fund investing, and "trust me, bro"
53:59 Always his own biggest LP
55:14 The DPI stand that cost him LP's
58:54 Decart, and the Anthropic deal
1:03:54 Inside the 30-year rise of Israel's tech ecosystem
1:07:19 The Yozma program that built an industry
1:11:59 Why Israelis build now instead of selling early
1:14:39 Moving to the Valley in the 2002 nuclear winter
1:17:19 Audible, and why the first home run matters
1:19:29 Leaving Apax, and going solo
1:22:04 Peter Thiel and a fund raised in 30 minutes
1:24:24 The second fund: 48 hours, still no deck
1:25:49 ICON: helping Israeli founders crack the Valley
1:30:29 The leader he admires most: Anwar Sadat
Jeff Greenfeld retweeted
Hot take from S.F. compute:
“Within the next 6 months, most AI startups will not be able to buy compute. The world’s compute is sold out. To get capacity, you’ll need to sign up for a new cluster. However, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to get capacity online from folks who are not investment grade.
Startups are not investment grade.”
I hope this is wrong, but I think many entities are unprepared for compute shortages and demand being much higher than what Wall Street expects, and so high demand and high interest rates will cause a big problem for everyone.
Make an example of everyone involved. @PeteHegseth you should hold the scimitar
Jeff Greenfeld retweeted
Today was a clear wake-up call for the market. It’s apparent that most investors weren’t, and perhaps still aren’t, prepared for each of the big 5 (incl. SPCX) to potentially raise multiple hundreds of billions of equity/debt capital through 2030, and multiple trillions collectively. These investors also weren’t prepared for the capex growth to have no end in sight.
Ironically, many of the executives of these companies have been out in public clearly communicating their intention to keep spending very aggressively, with no plans to stop anytime soon.
And yet, for whatever reason, street estimates called for capex to slow dramatically into 2028 and basically plateau thereafter. The street modeled 50-60% capex growth across the big 5 in 2027 (which itself is low), and then MSD% growth annually. There is no good fundamental reason to model that unless you think companies spend less because the returns on the technology slow, or you think there are severe physical/power/financing constraints (though this would just result in slower growth, not the plateau that’s been modeled).
But it seems just as likely that out-year estimates simply defaulted to a plateau. Companies only guide a year out, and few on the sell-side are willing to model years of cash burn at this scale, so in their models, burn peaks in 2027 before FCF flips back positive in 2028 and scales from there. That path doesn’t require nearly as much capital issuance. To be clear, this would be a much happier and easier world for equity investors, who could go back to reaping the rewards instead of writing the checks. But for those who took the companies at their word and modeled continued elevated capex growth through the balance of this decade, these levels of issuance were a mathematical inevitability.
Yesterday’s filing from $META probably forced many to contemplate for the first time that each of these companies could actually burn and issue multiple hundreds of billions of dollars in the coming years. The credit markets have already shown signs of strain under the sheer magnitude of issuance, so more of this may need to be done through equity. That means there was also some front-running of eventual, unknown but likely material levels of dilution.
Equity markets don’t like being diluted, and they generally don’t like companies spending money at all. Especially not when the dollars get this big and when, rightly or wrongly, many still doubt the viability or magnitude of the returns, or at the very least don’t care to wait around to find out. Add in the crowding and leverage, along with a continued rise in oil on Middle East flare-ups, and you get a meaningful stock correction.
And so that’s what I believe the market priced in today: more burn, more issuance, more dilution, more leverage, more risk, more financing constraints (esp. for the most rate-exposed stuff, which got hit the worst today), along with some uptick in the chance this all falls apart.
This is going to sound perverse, but I think a day like today is very healthy. The companies are ambitious and the markets are stingy. And they will have to work with one another to get what they want. The companies want unprecedented capital to invest in what they believe is a re-platforming of the entire global infrastructure for an AI future, and the markets demand sufficient evidence that they’ll earn above the required return on the capital they lay out and the risk they take on. Ultimately, this forces the companies to be more disciplined and to show ROI as early and visibly as possible. That doesn’t mean they spend less, just that they have to prove the spend is working. I don’t think Zuck’s comment about monetizing Muse so much more rapidly than previous platforms was a coincidence. He knows what he needs, and he knows what he needs to show to get it.
So what now? Is AI a powerful enough driver to muscle its way through the fears being expressed by markets?
I think so. The big 5 may grow capex from >$1.3 trillion in 2027 to >$2.5 trillion in 2030, a ~25% CAGR. That implies a lot of paper, but in general, the hyperscalers can afford to pay higher rates, and there still seems to be demand from credit investors for it. At yesterday’s Robin Hood conference, execs at Diameter and HPS expressed a view that 7-8.5% yields on bonds from these companies are interesting. And I’d argue that’s for good reason: aside from SPCX, these companies generate massive operating cash flow and have largely benign net debt/EBITDA levels.
On the other hand, the more speculative companies that sit further out on the risk curve, pay higher spreads, and often don’t generate any cash at all will likely be forced to spend less. If you thought CRWV and NBIS would spend a combined ~$150-200 billion of capex in 2030 (vs. ~$60 billion in 2026), that might get cut in half because of financing constraints. But even a $100 billion reduction is only a 3-4% hit relative to the big 5’s 2030 capex, which, on net, is very manageable. That may be an issue for those companies, but it’s not enough to derail the ecosystem as a whole.
Ultimately, you have to believe there are attractive returns in AI, which I strongly believe are inflecting and wrote about here: xitter.cf/evergreencap3/status/2….
So even while things remain turbulent, the path still appears bright.
Some thoughts on AI ROI, which I believe is misunderstood and severely understated. TL;DR: AI ROI is inflecting for end customers (most important) and infra providers. Pure model provider ROI is less clear, but models will keep improving regardless, driving the industry forward.
Of all the debates on AI, the biggest and most persistent is around ROI. The problem is that the debate revolves around a single, inconsistently applied definition, when in reality there are three: 1) ROI for model providers, 2) ROI for model customers, and 3) ROI for infrastructure providers
While cooperative, #1 and #2 are fundamentally at odds with one another. All else equal, the higher the margin a model provider captures on the tokens it sells, the lower the margin the customer of those tokens captures on the work being done. This is driving enterprises to rationalize spend where they can: if a job can be done as effectively with a cheaper model, the ROI on that job is proportionally higher than if it were done with a more expensive model. That’s not 'bad' for AI. It just represents margin shifting from the provider to the customer.
Meanwhile, the ROI for infrastructure providers is a collective function of both. And while there are nuances around returns for individual infra providers depending on the concentration of and share between the model and customer cohorts, the reality is that infrastructure ROI overall benefits as long as demand for tokens keeps growing, regardless of the ongoing push-pull between model providers and customers.
In the last couple of months, we seem to be heading in a certain direction: aggregate model customer ROI is accelerating as customers benefit from the utility of increasingly intelligent tokens (and apps) at falling prices. This is evidenced by nearly all of the token-volume metrics across the industry, which continue to show growth and/or acceleration. Both the qualitative and quantitative data points on positive customer ROI are growing in concert, most recently with AWS CFO John Felton remarking that he studied AWS’ own token usage and found that, in general, more is better. And for those who still don’t believe in return on token spend, I implore you to model out the number of tokens needed to complete a job of your choice and measure the value of that job relative to the underlying cost of the tokens, with or without the model provider margin. Sure, there can always be waste. But when utilized properly, the returns on tokens are extraordinary, which is exactly what's driving continued volume growth.
We’ve subsequently seen this flow through to the cloud infrastructure providers, whose payback periods have compressed and whose returns have also increased, primarily as a function of rising rental prices for GPUs/accelerators. And as those returns have increased, so has demand for the underlying infrastructure, benefiting the AI supply chain at large.
So far, so good.
That leaves the model providers, where the biggest question really lies. The fact that inference gross margins can be so high is certainly positive in addition to being obvious: the prices at which tokens are sold are multiples higher than the miniscule cost of the underlying FLOPs needed to generate them. And again, the value of the work being done by the end customer is multiples higher than the token prices, so everybody wins. However, inference gross margins paint an incomplete picture, because token prices are primarily a function of model quality, which is primarily a function of training spend. That spend, in aggregate, is causing model providers to burn lots of cash. And because competition remains so intense, it’s unlikely in my view that any model provider can retain its inference margins without continued aggressive training spend. So the two go hand in hand and should be assessed together. While Anthropic’s reported positive FCF in 3Q was a nice surprise, I don’t expect it to continue, especially as OpenAI remains committed to investing aggressively and burning cash for the foreseeable future.
So that’s the predicament. The market is unsure what the long-term business and economic model of a 'lab' is, and rightly so. That raises the question: if the labs can’t make money, who’s going to fund the training, and how will the models keep getting better, which is the critical ingredient in continued AI adoption and end-customer ROI?
I see a few outcomes to this question:
Scenario 1: Concerns about model-provider economics prove overstated, and the market expands rapidly enough to accommodate multiple profitable frontier developers alongside a thriving open-source and open-weight ecosystem, supporting broad-based growth with attractive margins. This is probably the cleanest outcome which is why the market tends to like it so much. I still think this is the most likely path in the fullness of time, but it’s admittedly unclear. The mega-pilled RSI scenario also fits within this outcome, mainly in the sense that the investment pays off.
Scenario 2: Because of heightened competitive intensity and elevated training costs, the aggregate model provider ecosystem simply operates at maturity with razor-thin margins and very tight/minimal free cash flow generation, like other extremely competitive and/or commoditized industries. This is at least where we seem to be today, and where we will likely remain for some time.
Scenario 3: Financial pressure causes weaker participants to exit, merge, or scale back large training programs, eventually giving way to consolidation and reduced frontier training intensity, which allows the remaining players to expand margins. This seems both logical and likely to happen to some unknown degree, which would be positive for the value of the remaining players. Note that megacap tech hyperscalers, who collectively generate hundreds of billions in operating cash flow from their core businesses and are also training models, can continue to tap into that cash flow for ongoing training (ie GOOGL, META, and more recently NVDA). That will persist regardless of what happens with OpenAI or Anthropic.
Scenario 4: Frontier labs eventually convert into true public benefit corporations (in more than just name), owned and funded by a broad coalition of companies and the USG, all with incentives aligned toward the ongoing training and development of new models, effectively making the labs public utilities rather than private corporations. I do believe there is tremendous value in the IP at both OpenAI and Anthropic, and consequently see this as a far more likely outcome than either of them “going bust” and ceasing operations. While this may seem scarier to markets and in the headlines, the actual end result could be quite positive and well distributed across the entire AI ecosystem (rather than concentrated in the two labs). And at the very least, I believe there is strong merit in a pool of government-funded dollars for model development, much like the CHIPS and Science Act of 2022, which authorized $280 billion in federal funding and incentives. The US federal government spends >$7 trillion annually. Point being, there is both ample budget and precedent for the USG (and megacaps/others) to contribute to this national cause.
All in, some combination of these four outcomes should play out. And while some paths are smoother than others and there will be inevitable volatility and hiccups along the way, they all ultimately lead to positive ROI on AI spend: better models drive better end-customer returns, which drive better returns on infrastructure. That flywheel is already in motion (as evidenced by rising token volumes, GPU rental prices, and infra returns), and it’s much more sustainable than the market fears. It will take time to get from here to there, but the endgame appears to be quite positive, almost any way you slice it.
Jeff Greenfeld retweeted
we got odds a company that makes a bajillion dollars mismanages things so badly it blows up, amazing
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$META - META PLATFORM'S 5-YEAR CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS HITS ALL-TIME HIGH, LAST AT 114.5 BPS - MARKIT DATA
Pod shops are honestly so funny like, yeah, of course the brokers want to see more of you guys lol fee generators
There’s no doubt that AI has advanced to a point where it is transforming the way we do computing and a whole bunch of stuff downstream of that.
But also, come on y’all. Venture valuations have become more marketing than finance.
There are only 130 US tech companies, public or private, valued at $10B or more (decacorns). That’s roughly 20 to 30 new companies per decade, for the last five decades. This year alone, with a quarter to go, there have been 42 decacorns minted privately. Either this is the most economically transformative event since the industrial revolution, or we’re getting a wee bit ahead of ourselves.
























