And their supporters went 3 elections "wasting their votes" until suddenly they weren't at all
This is what can occur when people vote their values and build a constituency
Imagine what would happen to the unaparty if everyone did so, rather than voting against something
I really don’t think there was a conspiracy to push TOP. The party survived for a long time after the departure of its founder, which is more than can be said for the Internet, Mana, United Future and probably in due course New Zealand First Party.
Because it hung on, due to irritatingly tenacious work by people (largely unthanked) it was around and about when its hour came round at last. Most of life is about showing up and the rest is timing.
It got a push by the media but no more than it received in 2017. Media attention is required but no sufficient. What was more influential was the malaise caused by the cost of living crisis causing generalised discontent plus the hardening of all Parliamentary parties into left nd right camps.
It didn’t get a universally easy run of things and Jack Tame really showed Wong up in her first interview. By the time of the second interview, she clearly knew what she was doing and that’s what happens when you combine aptitude and experience.
Yeah they’ve had a bit of a charmed run and that’s unlikely to continue as the reality of power disabuses them of their high falutin ideals. I wouldn’t bet on survival anymore than I would have bet on United Future staying over the 5 pc threshold after 2002.
I am the furthest thing from a supporter but fair is fair. They stuck it out and adapted and finally learned how to do elections properly.
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In which somehow it is on me to prove the counterfactual, when the point is the campaign cannot support its own claims of success
Replying to @coreisma @girlkellykelly
Those figures don't prove what you think they prove.
We've been looking into this using various tools to track things. Info as follows:
National's party vote fell from 38.08% in 2023 to 29.21% in 2026, a drop of nearly nine percentage points.
Yet its electorate candidate vote fell by just 2.21 points, from 43.47% to 41.26%.
In other words, National's electorate candidates held up remarkably well despite the party's collapse in support.
The gap between National's candidate vote and party vote has more than doubled, from 5.39 to 12.05 percentage points.
That's entirely consistent with increased split-voting, although it doesn't tell us how many voters were influenced by any particular campaign.
Meanwhile, turnout is estimated to have fallen from 78.2% to 74.6%. Getting disillusioned voters to turn out at all was clearly another challenge.
We won't know the full picture until the official results are in, but claiming these numbers prove the campaign made no difference is simply not supported by the evidence.
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Jonathan retweeted
Rather than get upset by the people that didn't vote the way you did or wanted them to, expand your thinking. It doesn't mean those people are wrong for voting for what they believed in just because you didn't get the result you wanted. It just means they have different values to you.
Replying to @AliaVFF @girlkellykelly
The dynamic you refer to between 2023 and 2026 was on all available evidence based in before October
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While Nick doubles-down on dumb
The most hilarious part of this being the ridiculous reference to a 20% increase without any connection to baseline, timing, and outcome
Yesterday’s election confirmed what so many already knew -National’s list MPs were never getting back in. The maths never lies. The writing had been on the wall for a long long time. Losing talented people is incredibly sad and i'm gutted for some of them.
But strategic voting helped National win electorates and create an overhang to counter the left’s almost flawlessly executed overhang strategy. Without it the centre-right would have little chance of forming the next government. The left used the rules of MMP. The right had to do the same to have a chance.
The numbers show a 20% increase in vote splitting on the right from the last election. The message clearly gained traction and thankfully has given the centre-right a real chance of forming the next government.
Yet 706,000 party votes still went to National without adding seats beyond its electorate wins. Essentially wasted votes.
I do wonder whether @NZNationalParty should have understood that maths and been more upfront about it with voters. Once the list seats were out of reach the success of the right bloc should have become the priority.
We can be sad about losing good people and still recognise why strategic voting made sense. The maths doesn’t change to suit party loyalties.
For me this comes back to the future we want for New Zealand.
We should remember the damage history shows socialist and communist economic policies have done when they crush incentives to build and invest. They shrink the pie and drive out talent and capital. Then politicians act surprised when productivity falls and living standards go backwards.
Sometimes I think the left forgets how much our living standards depend on businesses creating jobs and wealth. You cannot keep promising to spend more without backing the people who make that possible.
At ZURU we employ hundreds of people here and plan to grow that to thousands over the next decade. Around 99.5% of our projected revenue of more than $10 billion next year will come from overseas. We are fighting to bring more of that wealth home and create opportunities for talented Kiwis to build careers and eventually businesses of their own.
We need more companies doing that. More investment. More well-paid jobs. A bigger tax base to pay for better hospitals and schools. Higher living standards for everyone and better support for our most vulnerable.
I want young people to see a future here and families to get ahead. That takes a country willing to back people who build things and create wealth.
That is what I care about. Far more than any one party.
At the end of the day I want NZ to kick ass.
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Fran speaking sense to Aunty Helen
Replying to @HelenClarkNZ
National's vote on the night is basically where the last opinion polls had it and higher than the 26% thereabouts that it was earlier. It is quite possible that Seymour's leadership on fiscal issues enticed right leaning voters and that NZF's hard campaigning also bore fruit.
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Jonathan retweeted
Tomorrow National will face an embarrassing defeat. Why? 1) Politicians took home record high salaries while everyone struggled. 2) Failure to control corporate corruption led to record profits and higher prices. 3) And, poor mgmt allowed agencies to waste money and deliver less.
So tired of simplistic 'wasted vote' commentary
The much bigger tipping point is the 25% of eligible voters who may or may not put their mark on a ballot - but apparently they are invisible
They're the only reason Jacinda won outright in 2020, but they're invisible
One thing that I think is not super well-understood about the overhang is how the wasted vote interacts with it.
If Opportunity end up at 4.9%, the chances of a big overhang on the right drop a lot - but they probably won't mind as they will probably be in Govt anyway.
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